Ben Macintyre
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There was a time, just a few wars ago, when a British soldier in uniform could expect instant respect from a member of the public, while a man in civilian clothes at a time of war would be an object of suspicion. Today it is the soldier who is more likely to be cold-shouldered or even abused.
Between the Second World War and the current war in Iraq, a chasm has opened up between the British public and its soldiers.
True, relations between squaddies and civilians were never uniformly civil. Even during the Second World War, there were those who resented that men in uniform were served first in shops and bars.
Yet there was an instinctive respect for the Armed Forces, a widespread understanding that the people in uniform were carrying out an unpleasant and arduous democratic duty and were owed an important moral debt.
That sense of community was even more pronounced in the First World War when 700,000 British soldiers perished in battle, but hundreds of thousands more shared an experience of war and brought it home with them into civilian life. In a sense, the British public and its soldiery understood the same story.
That is no longer true today. Not only have only a small proportion of the population served in the Armed Forces, but also the experience of active warfare is, for most civilians, a remote affair, something viewed on television, an adjunct of politics.
In a heartfelt speech last September, General Sir Richard Dannatt, the head of the Army, spoke of the “growing gulf between the Army and the nation”.
He contrasted the low-key British attitude to its homecoming soldiers with the reception of veterans in America, where “companies offer military discounts, sports teams give out free tickets, people in the street shake the hand of men in uniform”.
In part, that is because American servicemen still routinely wear uniforms in public.
In Britain, IRA violence in the 1970s prompted the Ministry of Defence to order that servicemen wear civilian clothes when off duty to avoid becoming targets. Soldiers melted into the population, while the progressive closure of barracks in cities pushed the Forces farther to the periphery of British life.
The Ministry of Defence compounds that alienation today by controlling strictly media access to returning soldiers and often insisting that a military adviser sits in on interviews. The notion that a uniform might be seen as a provocation rather than a source of patriotic pride reached a new level last March when personnel at RAF Wittering in Cambridgeshire were told not to wear their uniforms in Peterborough, as they might be subjected to verbal abuse.
In America, where there is considerable opposition to the Iraq war, there is nonetheless a determination to demonstrate support for the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan: bumper stickers, yellow ribbons, flags and homecoming parades.
In Canada, the road along which dead soldiers are brought home has been renamed the Highway of Heroes. As the escorted convoy passes, hundreds of ordinary Canadians line the road to show respect and support.
By contrast, most of the British dead return without ceremony, fanfare or much attention.
In part, this is the old-fashioned British inclination not to make a fuss, a residual display of the stiff upper lip. But is also reflects the way that the once-strong bond between the Armed Forces and the public has been diluted.
As many ex-servicemen will attest (angrily, but usually off the record) it is not the outright hostility of the few, nor the antiwar sentiment that pains them, but something far more damaging: a casual public indifference that makes this war different from any that has preceded it.
Pride on parade
United States The public has huge respect and appreciation for the armed forces. Military personnel wear their uniforms in public as a matter of routine. They get cheap tickets for sporting and other social events and cheap flights
Canada During body-repatriation ceremonies full military honours are accorded and coffins transported by cavalcade with police escort along the Highway of Heroes
France The forces are celebrated on nine days every year, including Armistice Day and Bastille Day. The wearing of uniforms is commonplace. Teenagers aged 16-18 must attend a “defence preparation day” to familiarise themselves with the role of the armed forces
Australia Members of the military wear their uniforms when going to work. Main bases hold open days
Russia Russians celebrate their armed forces on February 23. Founded as Red Army Day in 1922, the event was renamed Defender of the Fatherland Day in 1995 and has been a national holiday since 2002
China Rallies across the country on August 1 celebrate the armed forces. The date commemorates the founding of the People's Liberation Army in 1927
Bulgaria A Day of Bravery is held on May 6, St George's Day in the Julian calendar, as he is the patron saint of the Bulgarian army
India Holds separate days for its army, navy and air force. Army day, on January 15, marks the official handover of the army from the last British commander-in-chief to the Indian Field Marshal, KM Cariappa, in 1949, and usually consists of parades and military exercises
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I suspect the british still feel proud of our servicmen,it is just that the current conflicts lack moral legitimacy.
Eddy, Bury St.Edmunds, uk
I'm one American that loves and respects the British military and am grateful to all of who serve. If the military is accepable for Harry and William, then it's good enough for the ingrates too. Thanks to all for serving!
Mac Childers, North Myrtle Beach, SC, United States
As a former marine I found the public very supportive to its soldiers. Given the current enemy, and their fairly recent plans to abduct and murder soldiers,I do not think uniforms in public are a good idea. Security must always come first.
Harry, Exmouth,
When I was a cadet in the Royal Air Force, we were told we would be brain-washed into doing what the Air Force wanted of us. And no, it was no joke. Make what you want of that; as I am sure the general public will.
Howard, Sussex, UK
Servicemen don't want to be lionised, merely understood. I volunteered to join up and am paid for it. I don't need discounts and parades in return. What I want is to change the perception by some that we are all soulless killing machines, mysteriously different from normal people. We are not.
David Burke, Manchester, UK
Andrew Milner's comment sums it up.
Elsewhere in the world the armed forces are awarded the laurel of the hero.
In the UK we are all tarred with the brush of the scoundrel.
In nearly 30 years service, I've seen things get progressively worse.
Andy, Plymouth, UK
"Support Our Troops", the pick-up truck and SUV driver's bumper sticker of choice. "What, even if they are war criminals, child murders, torturers, rapists ...? Would that I could be that charitable.
Andrew Milner, Yokohama, Japan
Its the lingering folk-memory of Cromwell's Major-Generals when the country was in effect "occupied" by its soldiers that explains why there is such an ambivalent attitude to the armed forces.
The New model Army was stood down at the Restoration : never again should its like be instituted.
H J Callaghan, Plymouth, Devon UK
I'ver heard it said before that the British have a 'healthy disrespect for authority' and who represents the authority of the state more than a soldier in uniform? George Orwell said it in the 'Lion and the Unicorn' - that's why militarism would never flourish in the UK, we are inately anti-uniform
James Carter, Huddersfield, United Kingdom
You cannot just blame the general British public for their apathy and lack of respect for British Forces, the politicians are even worse. Those soldiers fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan are doing so with sub standard equipment due to budget restrictions created by the politicians.
Mabon Dane, Haverhill, UK
Respect evaporated when Blair made mugs of them fighting his Iraq war.
jasper, chelmsford,
It isn't the general public that doesn't care. Local councils, utility companies, the NHS, and of course, the government itself, all couldn't give a monkey's, about veterans in particular. When structural violence reaches this level, it has a knock on effect on the public's perception.
Jennifer Hynes, Plymouth, England
I think you put your finger on the problem when you mentioned the MoD. Our forces, through no fault of their own, are associated with that useless, hypocritical, spendthrift, self-centred shower. Also, it's hard to love the soldier and hate the war (and the war crimes). Not their fault, though.
Tom Welsh, Basingstoke,
It is not true, we respect our soldiers it is just that we also recognize that they are being sent to war for political purposes instead of defending the weak or the UK.
Our soldiers are still the best but under resourced and in the wrong places.
Joe, Edinburgh, Scotland
The general public support the forces. It is the liberal left - the BBC Guardian schools universities many public bodies - plus a fair proportion of muslims and muslim bodies who are against the forces. If you identify the perpetrators you are in a better position to tackle the problem
David Cartright, Birmingham,
Ben our Armed Services have always been required to be little seen or heard.It's the way we do things
Do not get carried away by this lack of respect , emanating from Browns spinners.This is a device for Gordon to claim the troops as his" own" and wave the flag.
He needs to cover his Scottish flank
robert everitt, wolverhampton,
This is a very cynical ploy to regain the respect the government has lost by sending working class youth to die in pointless and morally repugnant military adventures. It is nothing to do with the public's feelings toward the military and everything to do with the wars we are fighting now.
Dave Humphrey, Manchester,
Maybe it's down to the fact these people are doing a job that few men nowadays have the guts to do. Perhaps we should be lamenting the decline of masculinity as we are left with men like Marcus who is willing to screech his side of the argument but lacks the capacity or bravery to fight for it.
Claire , London, UK
Support democracy and a free world and the military will look after itself.
We need to dump the UN, which is mainly comprised of dictators and despots and have a union of free and democratic states in its place. This might even shame counties such as Ireland and Switzerland onboard.
George Ball, Diss,
While I still respect the people who are in the Armed force but I find it difficult to support them in the "illegal" war that they are being force into such the like of Iraq War in which I don't support at ALL!
Least so with Afghanistan...
Marcus Collins, Nottingham,
Rubbish, the respect is still present in this Country the only people who dislike the military are the Government who sends them off to wars but treats them like muck and our every increasing immigration population who seem to think they can live in our Country and then criticize our traditions.
Roger, Surrey,
If we really want to honour our armed forces we should insist they are properly resourced, paid, kitted out, and housed. The Army needs more soldiers, the Navy more and better ships and the Air Force more helicopters and transports. That, and Rememberance day, is the way to respect these heros.
Steve Grum, Marlborough,
It's a shame to hear of this happening. In the US we love our men and women in uniform and civil service. It wasn't always the case though... during and after the Vietnam War we were absolutely terrible to returning servicemen/women. We're still trying to make amends for that. Support your Military!
Holly, Kenai, USA