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Most people think of Denise Van Outen as one of the original ladettes: a loud-mouthed, sweary, lager-drinking type. The reality couldn't be more different. The actress/TV presenter/broadcaster, who made her name presenting The Big Breakfast in the mid-1990s, turns out to be a softly-spoken advertisement for healthy living who goes to bed early, eats well, works out and rarely drinks.
Without it, she says, she wouldn't be able to cope with a schedule that includes co-hosting Capital Radio's breakfast show and presenting a new Saturday night ITV1 programme, Who Dares Sings! And, until recently, she was also a judge on BBC One's popular I'd Do Anything talent search for a female lead for a new production of Oliver! “I felt such a responsibility for the girls,” says Van Outen, 34. “It was lovely to be a part of it, but I took it very seriously. With Who Dares Sings! I can relax and have fun.”
Not many people would consider anchoring a TV programme to be relaxing, but Van Outen takes it in her stride. She has been on stage in the West End and Broadway, on TV on both sides of the Atlantic, and on radio. She also writes a column for a weekly magazine. Clearly driven and ambitious, she is adept at reinventing herself and embracing new challenges - including staying on top form as she gets older.
“It's everything,” she states frankly. “I get up at 4am to do the breakfast show and it kills me. I couldn't do it if I didn't look after myself. Ten years ago it was much easier.
“I'm still doing the same amount of work I was doing in my twenties but I need to look after myself now. You run on adrenalin when you're younger. I had a full medical recently and everything's in good nick. The doctor said my cholesterol's really low - Japanese low.”
A fairly constant size 10, she never weighs herself and still wears a dress that she bought when she was 18. She was at her thinnest in 2001, when she was not only in the West End run of Chicago but also on what she calls the “heartbreak diet”; she had recently split from her fiancé, Jay Kay, the Jamiroquai singer. She has since said that it was simply the wrong time, that they were too young, and that they didn't see enough of each other. But in the aftermath, she went down to a size 6.
‘"I hated not having my bust"
“I felt so unattractive,” she recalls. “I wasn't trying to lose weight, but I was tiny and it didn't look nice. I hated not having my bust; I felt so unfeminine. Normal women have got lumps and bumps and I don't know any man who finds it attractive to see a stick-thin woman.”
As for the female habit of hating bits of your own body, Van Outen's having none of it. She doesn't have a full-length mirror in her flat, rarely looks at herself and doesn't check to see if she's got cellulite “because it's guaranteed that if you do it will be pointed out somewhere in the press so I don't want to obsess about it”.
But in an industry in which looks are important, is she not tempted by Botox? Though not ruling it out, she says she hasn't had it yet because she's worried about the long-term effects (and horrified by a recent episode of Katie & Peter, Katie Price and Peter Andre's reality show - “watching it is my guilty secret” - in which a doctor was sticking needles all over the former glamour model's face). She doesn't rule out plastic surgery either, though not on her face: “I think facelifts look awful you can always tell. I've always thought that maybe once I've had kids, after breast-feeding, I might have a cheeky boob-lift.”
Her more pressing worry isn't wrinkles or boob-lifts but that doing radio so early in the day will make it easy to become a slob. She tries to counter this by putting her clothes out the night before, but it bugs her never having time to do her hair in the morning. Dressed today in a pretty green sun dress, she doesn't look like someone who got ready in the car and hasn't blow-dried her hair in days.
But then Van Outen is a master of disguise: behind the loud-mouth image is a thoughtful, likeable woman who comes across, above all,as a pro at the whole celebrity shebang - from conducting her private life to giving interviews. She knows the game, plays it, gets on with the job and goes home.
Her current healthy regimen stems from her stint in the West End in Rent. Doing eight shows a week kept her fit and she wanted to keep it up after the play ended. So she hired a personal trainer and now runs for an hour every day on Hampstead Heath near her home in North London.
“It makes me feel better. My trainer's brilliant, she drags me out on days when I'm exhausted and afterwards I always say ‘thank you so much! It's tempting when you get up at 4am to say that you can't be bothered. Sometimes I'm actually asleep in my trainers and tracksuit bottoms. But I think running outside in the fresh air every day is what you need.” So much so, she doesn't use any alternative therapies and is resolutely low-maintenance: she hates massages because she can't sit still, does her own manicures and pedicures because she's ticklish, and applies her own fake tan before bed.
The finishing touch is a bizarre-sounding fake tan sleep suit which stops it rubbing off on her sheets. “It's genius,” she laughs. “It's like an all-in-one black Babygro.”
“Using a sunbed is my big regret”
Her beauty regimen revolves around an SPF15 facial moisturiser every day, which she raises to factor 30 if she's in the sun. A sunbed habit in her teens has left her with skin pigmentation on her face, which she covers with make-up (though in the flesh you wouldn't know it).
“I didn't know the risks,” she says. “I'm paying for it now. It's my big regret. Girls are still using them, risking skin cancer for a tan. They should know that tans fade.”
She now gets her moles checked every year and campaigns to raise awareness of skin cancer and breast cancer - her grandmother suffered from the latter. She agreed to carry the Olympic torch on its controversial passage through London recently partly because a Capital listener who suffers from breast cancer wanted to do it with her. And although she thinks it's important for London to have the Olympics, and she believes in the spirit and heart of it, the politics made her uneasy.
The politics was of a very different kind in Los Angeles, where she spent time last year filming a TV show. There, a healthy English girl with an appetite was too much for some. One producer took her out to dinner at the Chateau Marmont, the Hollywood hotel, soon after she arrived. At the time she was heavier than usual as she had just spent the winter in the north of England filming Where The Heart Is and existing on comfort food and bread. The producer effectively told her to go on a diet. “It's really competitive out here,” he said, “and people are so rude...” So three cheers for our Denise, who ordered spaghetti bolognese and chips.
"I don't ever want to be size zero"
She then tells of going out for a friend's birthday dinner, with a famous actress. While everyone else tucked in to pizza, salad and decent red wine, the Very Famous Actress had a bowl of spinach leaves. “I just thought why? What is the point? It's just miserable. The LA look is a size zero which I don't ever want to be. I'm happy with my body.” But body fascism apart, Van Outen loved the city. “I like the lifestyle and the sun's always shining. I'd get up, go to the gym or to a class with friends, eat nice, healthy food and go to bed early.”
Yet she never wants to live there permanently, simply because she likes England, and London, too much - “and in LA it's all about the industry. And as much as I do work, it's not the be-all and end-all for me. I like seeing friends and I'm very close to my family.Having a separate life from this industry is important to me.”
Still close to her family, she was brought up a Roman Catholic but stopped going to church as a teenager. Her mother still attends Mass every week and, although Van Outen often goes with her to the midnight service on Christmas Eve, she now describes herself as spiritual rather than religious, someone who believes that even bad things happen for a reason, and that it's good karma to pray for your enemies as much as your friends. “I do believe in a higher being but I don't need to go to a church every week,” she says. “I can see why some people need it. My grandmother died very content because she had her faith, and since she passed away I can see why Mum's turned to it more. I think she feels that going to Mass is like her little moment with her mum.”
“I've always imagined myself with a family”
As for her own family prospects, she has often said that she longs to get married and have children. Now 34 and with a hugely demanding career, she is in a fledgling relationship with Lee Mead, the 26-year-old winner of the TV talent show Any Dream Will Do. She was one of the judges. Though both have said that the eight-year age gap has never been an issue for either of them, is marriage and children still the plan?
“I'd love to.” Will that be with Mead? “I don't know. We've only been going out for seven months and we don't even live together. We'll just have to see.” Does adoption and single motherhood in the pre-Brad Pitt Angelina Jolie style beckon? “Because my parents are still together I've always imagined myself with a family, and that includes a husband and 2.4 children, so hopefully that's what I'll have. I don't really feel my biological clock ticking but I'm not putting anything on hold for my career. I'm aware of my age but I'm not panicking.”
Meanwhile she has a six-year-old nephew to adore and whom she visits in Hove as often as she can (she has her own house there). But at present, life is a tunnel of early mornings, filming Who Dares Sings! and fitting in her daily run, and it has to run like a military campaign. “I get home from doing my run and my friends know I won't answer the phone,” she says. “I have to start to wind down. I have a hot bath, light my candles, close my curtains even when it's light, and get myself ready for sleep.”
No swearing, no lager. There seems to be a vacancy in the ladette ranks.
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