Carol Midgley
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London is a fantastic city. No one would argue with that. But it is also an arrogant, pampered and bloated city that has had all the odds stacked in its favour for decades and, actually, should be much better than it is.
Ah, but this is the trouble, you see. Criticise London as a northerner and everyone has you down as a chippy clog-wearer who eats coal for breakfast and is blinded by envy. But answer me this: if London is such a fabulous place to live, why does everyone always look so miserable? If it is so cultured, why do adults seem to have only two topics of conversation: 1) the awfulness of its state schools, and 2) the size of their mortgages?
The idea that London would be better off without the rest of the country is deluded. Why do so many young people flock there? It’s not because they want to pay £300 a week to rent a tiny room in a shared flat, but because this country is so Londoncentric that they have no option if they want good jobs. London is a succubus, drawing the talent out of the provinces — but many people, once they have children, can’t wait to get out.
London needs to realise that if Britain were like other countries, such as Spain and Italy, where provincial cities are not patronised, it might fare less well.
And it had better watch its back. The provinces are getting cooler and richer, so that, culturally at least, London is becoming less relevant. I won’t even dwell on that fact that the North West has produced the best pop music for the past 20 years. Or that it leads the field in comedy talent. Or that, proportionately, the number of new millionaires is rising faster there than in London. Suffice to say that the landscape is changing.
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Some may view the North as a place they wouldn't even contemplate visiting.
I've spent considerable time in the north and this is my conclusion.
The North is amass of historical points of interest, picturesque sights and delightful market towns.
You will find many people in the north as pleasant as their surroundings.
However,there seems to be two different versions of the north. The other version is disgustingly urban, overwhelmingly industrial & populated with some of the most highly-critical realists' you are ever likely to meet. This realist element of their personality is rightly interpreted by the denizens' who inhabit the wider world as one of vindictiveness against London & the South East, resentment of progress and suspicion of all except their community members.
If the North wants to improve it's relationship with the wider world, it must stop playing the poverty card & embrace all people as opposed to alienating themselves & plunging into further social isolation.
Simon, London, United Kingdom
London is a fantastic city. No one would argue with that.
I would. It's vile. If it's so wonderful, why is that I'm for ever reading about various bigwigs that they live in London and the Cotswolds, or spend the time between their house in London and their cottage in Suffolk? Londoners are parasites. Keep them out of England.
Trofim, Birmingham,
Of course, the Midlands gets glossed over/ignored AGAIN.
Matthew, Dudley,
Crickey - a first, a Times columnist not writing the usual London centred rubbish! But hey - dont burst the myth, I dont want millions of southerners that think they couldnt possibly visit 'The North', suddenly paying a visit. I like the fact that my nearest national park is quiet, I like the fact I can still buy a decent pint for well under £2, I like the fact its easy to get a ticket for my local orchestra in a top quality venue. So keep at it you times columnists and pretend London is the best place ever...
Al, Newcastle,
Having visited both London and the NW, I'm affraid the is only one winner, and it's not the NW.
J White, Paris, France
As a Mancunian who lived most of my adult life in London and came back 4 years ago after having a child I can only say that this article has got so much wrong. Manchester is all gloss with flashy but largely empty buy-to-lets all over the city, an economy/entertainment emporium based on screwing students out of their southern parents' cash, and a violent crime rate that beggars belief (someone tried to crowbar their way into my flat the other day while I was in with my 4 year old daughter and it took the police 20 minutes to arrive!) Culture is based around football and drinking unless you count one rep cinema (the Cornerhouse, which does it's best) and rubbish theatres (they used to be great but sadly are now fodder for the blue rinse brigade).Any southerners who are thinking of moving to these parts to get away from the increasing expense of London I'd go to plan B and move out of the UK instead. Don't believe the hype!! Northern towns are divisive, aggressive, and dangerous.
Jane Williams, Manchester, UK