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The chief executive of one of America’s biggest sub-prime mortgage lenders has predicted that the current “dislocation” in the US home loan market could be the most severe since the Great Depression in the 1930s.
Mark Ernst, chief executive of H&R Block, made the comments after it emerged that Cerberus Capital Managament, the US hedge fund, was in advanced talks to reduce the $1 billion price that it agreed to pay to H&R five months ago for one of its subsidiaries.
Cerberus is hoping that “material adverse market conditions” could let it either cut the price for Option One Mortgage Company or walk away from the agreed deal altogether.
H&R Block, which offers bank accounts for low-income earners, prepaid credit cards and mortgages, said yesterday that losses have more than doubled during the first financial quarter of the year, ending July 31.
Mr Ernst attributed two thirds of that loss to the Option One Mortgage operations, bought in 1997.
Since the surge in mortgage delinquencies in America and the slowing of the property market, Option One has cut its lending by 80 per cent. It now offers mortgages worth $200 million a month, down from the $1 billion a month lent before this summer’s crisis. That sharp decrease breaches terms of the sale of the unit to Cerberus.
However, Mr Ernst said that he would rather have risked the success of the sale, and the future of the unit, than continue to sell mortgages in the current market. He said that H&R would close the unit if sale talks fail. Cerberus Capital was unavailable for comment yesterday.
Meanwhile, Freddie Mac, the American mortgage financier, yesterday admitted to a 45 per cent slide in profits during the second quarter of the year. It said that it had taken a $320 million hit over the period on new mortgages and reported net income of $764 million, down from $1.4 billion for the same period the year before.
Anthony Piszel, Freddie Mac’s chief financial officer, said: “Assuming nothing changes over the balance of the quarter, it will put pressure on our fair-value returns.”
In June, Freddie Mac returned to quarterly reporting for the first time since accounting and management problems forced it to restate $5 billion in earnings several years ago.
Freddie Mac - more formally the Federal Home Loan Mortage Corporation - buys mortgages, pools them and then sells them on as mortgage-backed securities. Although the company is privately owned, it is sponsored by the US Government and allowed to make loans and offer loan guarantees.
Freddie Mac, and its larger government-sponsored sibling Fannie Mae, were created by Congress to pump money into the $8 trillion home mortgage market by buying banks’ mortgages and selling them on.
Combined, Fannie and Freddie finance or guarantee about two thirds of all American mortgages. They are seen as more cautious than the lenders catering to borrowers with poor credit that have collapsed this year.
Nevertheless, Freddie Mac’s total credit-related expenses - expected losses and expenses from mortgages projected to fail - leapt by 74 per cent in the second quarter to $336 million, up from $193 million a year earlier.
Democrats in Congress want to raise the individual limit for home mortgages that Fannie and Freddie are allowed to buy as a way to help to stabilise the mortgage market.
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Any mortgage taken out in the last six years in the UK is sub-prime because the mortgage has been given on a false hugely inflated valuation. Any mortgage of more than 3.5. times one partner's salary is sub-prime because an economic downturn will mean it could become unaffordable. Any mortgage given by any British lender is now suspect anyway, because they were lending money they did not have and now have no way of paying back. Do any of you know who owns your house - because it very likely isn't who you think it is. Northern Rock doesn't own it, they don't own anything anymore, not even the big directors chairs they sit in.Bradford and Bingley have probably just sold it to General Electric. Royal Bank of Scotland won't tell you who they sold it to - if they know. Nor will Barclay's.The whole sad mess is sub-prime especially the ethics of British banking.
eric campbell, harrogate, uk
As people have above rightly commented..greed and avarice across the board,and time for the prudent,and temperate to have their day.
Personally I hope the whole lot goes belly up...as a Chineese proverb goes...'So foul the sky-only a storm will clear'
antony Graham, southport,
I was feeling rather low and gloomy until I read Mr Pete Balchin's excellent comment. I recall the Council of Mortgage Lenders, Nationwide's chief economist (Fionnnulaaaaafiona) and Mr David Smith reassuring us that house prices can only ever go up and that there was no need to worry about the UK Sub-Prime because it didn't exist.
So, Self-Certified mortgages do not exist then? So, Interest-Only mortgages, with an initial teaser-rate for the first 2 years, do not exist either then? So, no middle-class professional couples, with a joint income of say GBP50,000+, have taken out a mortgage of GBP300,000 to buy that nice house in the catchment of a great school then. Sorry to enlighten you, but even that latter example puts our middle-class couple in the sub-prime bracket.
Sub-prime means high risk. There are plenty of risk takers within a national economy whose debt is higher then GDP.
Perhaps Mr David Smith could give us his thoughts now?
NickT, Aldershot, Hants,
The real underlying problem is intangible - it's a loss of trust - in politicians, financial institutions, and in each other.
Several years ago - maybe 10 - Rabbi Sachs (I think it was) gave a 'Thought for the Day' on Radio 4 in which he laid out very clearly the consequences for the markets and for society of a loss of trust. It would be nice to hear it again, now.
MarkS, Leeds,
This housing loan problem is actually only a symptom of the real disease, which is the terrible greed which was loosed without restraints in the 1980's in America in the financial sectors, including the stock markets by Ronald Reagan and his ultra-right cronies.
The wealth of the planet is limited, and therefore the money supply. If Billionaires take 90% of this limited wealth for themselves, only 10% is left for the other 96% of the population. Wages were blocked for 20 years.Huge numbers of illegals were allowed in to benefit the Corporate farmers, the restaurant and service sector. Factories were built in foreign countries to avoid unions and legal protections. Each of these manoeuvres took income from the poor and middle class, and placed it with the minority Rich. Taxes were diminished for the Rich. Now there is no extra money to buy houses, cars or washing machines. No money for the majority of ordinary workers equals national financial collapse.
Victor Compton, Cherbourg, France
The headline to this article is misleading and Mr Enrnst should not be allowed the publicity it will bring ....the 'big' picture is nothing like Mr Enrnst would have us believe and his comments , and the sensationalist style of reporting them , merely add to the 'confusion' about the fall out from the sub prime market .
philip morgan, Dubai, UAE
With regard to the person who made a sarcastic remark about the Federal reserve being privately owned I have the following to say:
The Federal Reserve was founded in 1913 as four regional banks owned by the banks themselves. It was later extended to 12 regional banks. This was the first Central Bank in the US since 1836 when the then President - Jackson - succeded in persuading Congress not to extend the life of America's third Central Bank, which was 80 per cent privatley owned.
The Bank of England was privatley owned from 1694 until 1946 when it was supposedly nationalised.
having control of the money supply is vital to bankers.
Alan Heaton, Dreieich, Germany
Pete,
Just remember that Greenspan said there wasn't anything wrong in the housing market for the longest time and then after the top he said there may be "a little froth" .
Now he is giving talks on how these massive bubbles have been happening for hundreds of years and that the fed has no control over them, that they need to just play themselves out.
Since world economies are so closely linked I would not be surprised if UK were next.
B, NYC, USA
I think you may be missing something. The big move wanted by FNMA is to increase overall lending, not just individual loan sizes.
Richard Schweitzer, Atlanta, USA
Sorry to piggyback on this issue, but the US is currently borrowing three billion dollars each week for a fiasco in Iraq. Financial issues are cumulative. A major part of the Bush disaster is the vast fianacial incompetance of his administration which was most centrally focused upon huge tax cuts for the centimillionaire class in America. They have greatly played their part in ballooning debt. So combined with the regular cycles of business corruption, it seems the dreaded "D" word as Mr. Livesey of Sunnyvale CA mentions, looms ever larger. Thank you, George W. Bush. Not.
Tarquinis, Seattle, USA
I can sum up the credit crisis in four words:
CORPORATE AND CONSUMER GREED
Most wealthy people "can never have enough money, but they want more." Same is true for corporations.
End of story. GREED.
J. S. C., Monmouth, Maine
"Although the company [Freddie Mac] is privately owned..."
I challenge anyone to produce a list of the "owners." Privately owned, my foot. Just like the Federal Reserve, right?
Rick, Orlando, FL
Read my lips , There is no sub prime problem over here. The Council of Mortgage Lenders and David Smith Learned Economist at the Times have assured us of this...
Pete Balchin, Solicitor , Bristol, UK
It is important to remember that the gov is using
tax payers money or debt to be paid in the future
tax payers. This redujces the value of the currency
in the market place. As Einstein said " You cannot do only one thing."
J Parker, Montrose,
The government DOES NOT need to increase the mortgage level any higher than the current $417,000. Most subprime mortgages under duress are nowheres near that amount. People who,in congress, want the limit raised are saving their own butts or their rich buddies "loans on speculation"; the second home. No, raising the limits is nothing but a tax bailout for the more wealthy that took a chance and lost! Las Vegas doen not return money on a bad bet and the government should not bail out a bad financial decision by speclulators. Sorry Charlie, only the truely needly need to apply.
henry joe, jax, FL
And who pays? The taxpayer.
SD_Scott, Craptown, USA
Since you have mentioned the dreaded 'D' word, let's recall that the Great Contraction lasted from late 1929 to 1933, including two Bank panics, one year apart, and false recoveries were seen more than once. It's early days, yet.
jon livesey, Sunnyvale, CA/US