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She has often defended the apparently indefensible. As a hardened criminal hack, Sally O’Neill, QC, has acted for baby batterers, child abusers and murderers. And she preempts the stock question people ask of barristers about defending someone who they think is guilty. “It can be very difficult. You try to remain objective and impartial, to distance yourself and not form a view – which would be unhelpful.”
But, she insists, that is key to doing a professional job – as when she defended Roy Whiting, the murderer of seven-year-old Sarah Payne. In the same way, the new chairman of the Criminal Bar Association argues that whatever people think of the violence by young people on the streets, such offenders – often no more than children – deserve a better deal at the hands of the criminal justice system. “It doesn’t matter how much you disapprove of the offence. These people are often very vulnerable.”
This is O’Neill’s personal message for the coming 12 months as she takes over this week as head of the 4,000 prosecution and defence barristers in England and Wales. Young people, she believes, should often not be put in the criminal courts as traditionally run. “The use of a Crown Court like the Old Bailey, where I often work, to try defendants as young as 10 seems to be both inappropriate and outmoded. We need a completely fresh look at the whole way we try young people... whether in an informal forum, albeit still with a jury, perhaps a panel of specially trained youth justices. But not the whole panoply of the Crown Court.
“It troubles me that we do too little too late. We do try to help them within the trial process but it must start with the arrest – it’s not sufficient to have an ‘appropriate’ adult with them; you need to treat them differently, such as with the interviewing techniques, the questions they are being asked – special treatment from the start. I don’t think we are providing justice for them as we do for other vulnerable people, whether witnesses or defendants. It needs to be looked at from scratch.”
O’Neill is mindful that such comments could be unpopular when increasing incidents of violent lawlessness seem to involve youngsters. She cites the recent case in which a group threw stones at a man in a park and he died of a heart attack; and is aware that public sympathies are not with the offenders. But she says: “You can still properly and seriously – and severely if necessary – deal with these people but you must do so in the right environment with the right safeguards. It doesn’t seem right, seeing them wandering around the court complex.”
O’Neill is one of five children who grew up at a stately home in Staffordshire, Blithfield Hall, because her father, on retiring from the Army, took on the job of running it. “It was a wonderful childhood,” she says. “We lived in the hall and had access not just to that but to a very large garden and the estate... we were very privileged from that point of view.”
But her father died suddenly aged 59 at the time of her A levels and she failed to land a place to read medicine. Instead, her mother thought that she should try for law, so she did an external LLb at Essex Technical College, Chelmsford – now one of the new universities. She and her husband David of 21 years (they have no children but two English bulldogs) divide their time between a house in Islington and one near Woodbridge, Suffolk, where her late mother used to live.
She likes sailing, skiing and gardening and has a penchant for silk scarves – all the press pictures of her at the time of the Whiting trial showed her in one of the two Christian Lacroix scarves given to her by her husband. That trial gave her a taste of being in the media spotlight that could serve her well in the next year.
The new chairman both prosecutes and defends (from Furnival Chambers) and sits as a recorder. From that perspective she laments the lack of discretion for judges in sentencing – “the tick-box approach” – and is highly critical of the new indeterminate sentences for public protection that mean that large numbers of offenders are locked up, many for some relatively minor offences for “what is effectively a ‘life sentence’ because of the lack of facilities in prison to enable the offenders to show that they are fit for release”.
This year, too, she will act as the spokesperson and figurehead for criminal advocates – at a time when their rates of pay have been squeezed and legal aid work is more unprofitable and, she says, undervalued, than ever before. One problem, is the Bar’s inability to get over its message on this front – “which is ironic, given what we do for a living”, she says. “But we don’t seem able to get over the message that the Criminal Bar provides a necessary and useful function for the public. We have a very good criminal justice system in this country and it’s important to maintain that at this high standard. The public deserves the best quality advocates: should anyone end up in the criminal justice system, they will want the best.”
The danger, she says, is that quality was in danger of being sidelined to cut costs. “The best people will drift away, either from the Bar or from publicly funded work because they can’t afford to do the work. People think barristers already earn too much but they will drift away, which will be a great, great loss; and it is because of the undervaluing of this work and not just financially.”
She is determined that people should continue to be provided with the best quality of advocate possible. “But the danger of this continual chipping away, with being undervalued, is that the really good people will go. It is a very real risk.”
Key facts
Age: 53; School: St Joseph’s Covent School, Stafford; Alleynes Grammar School,
Uttoxeter; Essex Technical College. Called to the Bar, 1976; Crown Court
recorder. Likes sailing, scarves and dogs.
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I thought this advertisement for Sally O'Neiil was quite amusing; especially the reference to her taking up law because she was insufficiently qualified to become a doctor. The quality of public services has been progressively reduced, starting with nurses, then teachers, then the police.
Why shouldn't it continue? The Lords, the Bar, the Commons.
As the situation progresses, those that have been "done" will have little sympathy for those who have stayed tight-lipped, considering themselves too high placed in Society for the "Third-Way" to reach them.
john shale, wigan, england
You cetainly will see a revolution in the delivery of legal services, Mr Maietta.
If there is any cream left in the criminal justice system, you won't be able to afford it. If you carry on carping about legal fees in general you won't be able to afford a lawyer to promote or defend your interests against the State or any other faceless mass. We won't work for peanuts, mate.
John, Nottingham,
As a Solicitor I can say that the Bar has sat back, negotiated "beter" terms for the Bar and ignored the plight of Solicitors who have struggled against the destruction of legal aid for many years. When it did not directly affect barristers they showed no support for Solicitors. They have not taken part in any demonstrations nor, as a group, indicated to the Legal Services Commission (LSC) or the Ministry of Justice that the assault on Solicitors was unwarranted. Any comments they have made have been about the Bar and its position. Its a bit late now to seek the support of the public or of Solicitors just because LSC "reforms" are starting to affect barristers directly. Perhaps the new Bar Chairman would like to stand up beside Solicitors and support what Solicitors are trying to do and talk about the adverse affact legal aid reforms will have on Solicitors. Then the Bar might get the support of Solicitors and of our clients.
Michael Robinson, Sunderland,
when no one in the employed middle-class can afford to hire legal counsel, it is unsurprising that people are restive about the high cost of providing top of the range legal services to lowlife baby killers, abusers and their ilk. The plain fact of the matter is that commonwealth countries as well as the Uk have "gold-plated" legal systems which may afford superb rights to their citizens but fail the citizenry even so because costs have become so stratospheric that only absolute low life on legal aid or corporates can afford to use the legal system.
Angela Stewart, wellington, New Zealand
Excellence should never be lost, because the cream always rises to the top.
Hopefully this will encourage a lot of overpriced "dead wood" to leave the industry.
And if the Clementi bill comes in, then we will see a revolution in the delivery of legal services. For what its worth, I believe legal fees are a joke with how expensive they are, and they are a self centred goup serving mainly to their own pockets.
Time for transparency, time for change.
Roberto Maietta, London,
The junior criminal bar faces competition from CPS solicitors, who will increasingly take up Crown Court work whilst the job of solicitors in the Magistrates courts is taken by underqualified Case Workers (DCW's).
Defence solicitors are soon to be paid a global fee for counsel and instructing solicitor in the Crown Court. This fee is insufficient to support both, so increasing numbers of defence solicitors are getting, and using, Higher Rights.
As a Higher Rights solicitor I can say that our training is not adequate for the Crown Court, but neither is that of the CPS solicitors, so the incompetence evens out and the whole process is dumbed down.
Soon all prosecutors will be employees of the state and defenders will be in thrall to the Legal Services Commission. There will be no independence in the system at all.
There will soon be no junior criminal bar. Then no senior criminal bar, and no pool of acceptable competence for judicial appointments.
John, Nottingham,