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The Lord Chancellor faces renewed pressure to drop or delay plans for overhauling the legal aid scheme with a damning report today from MPs.
The Constitutional Affairs Committee says that if the proposed reforms go ahead, there is a risk to access to justice for the most vulnerable in society.The Constitutional Affairs Committee says that if the proposed reforms go ahead. there is a risk to access to justice for the most vulnerable in society.
Four separate court challenges are being prepared against the Lord Chancellor over plans to overhaul the scheme.
The committee says that the move to bring in competitive tendering for legal aid contracts must be piloted before being brought in. No detailed plans have been published, MPs say; and they raise doubts over whether the expected savings would justify the risks.
Lord Falconer of Thoroton, the Lord Chancellor, wants to move lawyers from “payment by the hour” to fixed fees in the interests of greater efficiency.
Fewer legal aid firms than now are envisaged; it is argued that this will achieve savings, enabling more people to be helped. But today MPs reject the idea that fewer larger legal aid firms would provide a more efficient service and say that to go ahead wihout a pilot project would be “reckless”.
The report further expresses concern about the impact on ethnic minority law firms, which tend to be small and to cater for the ethnic minority communities.
Alan Beith the committee’s Liberal Democrat chairman, said: “This is about access to justice, which could be irreversibly damaged if the reforms have the negative effect we have heard of in evidence to our committee. The proposed times-cales for such radical change are far too short, while the interim fixed fee transition period is risky and unhelpful.
“We are calling on the Government to rethink the timing and properly to pilot competitive tendering to get the evidence that the market-based aproach to legal aid procurement works in practice.”
The Law Society, the professional body for solicitors in England and Wales, has lodged one judicial review and is about to start two others over various aspects of the proposals. It suggests that they will lead to 800 law firms closing and is concerned that there has been inadequate consultation.
The Society of Asian Lawyers and Black Solicitors Network has lodged a judicial review, maintaining that the proposals – which will see law firms compete for legal aid contracts – will restrict access to justice for many minority communities.
“Small firms are much less likely to secure a contract,” the organisations say. “Black and Asian firms will therefore be disproportionately affected.”
Andrew Holroyd, of the Law Society, told the Minority Lawyers Conference at the weekend: “It is difficult to see how the current funding proposals can work without a great deal of risk to solicitors’ practices.”
The Lord Chancellor insists the reforms are necessary to curb rising costs and to create a more efficient system.
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If Legal Aid is cut then highly qualified people will work in other fields. The result will be poor representation in the courts. In family cases this could result in miscarriages of justice with children being taken away permanently from their parents. Those of you who think so called fat cat lawyers should just grin and bear the reforms should consider their position and hope that social services does not make a mistake about the care of their children post the implementation of the proposed reforms.
JD, London, UK
Only lawyers can undermine new proposals, and no doubt, they will, if their pockets become lighter as a result of any change. Legal profession is such a closed-knit club with financial greed being its foundation. After all, it is lawyers who eventually become judges in the UK, and it rather foolish to think that their habbits change after ascending to deliver justice.
It is indeed the scandal in relation to poorly transparent legal costs that is the real evil which erodes and undermines justice.Sadly, such fundamental issue had been put into the backburner consistently but campaigns of lip service to appease the public are floated by lawyer-friendly governments.It is time that mass scale corruption in relation to hourly rates is debated openly and review the practices of costs courts
Beth K, Nottingham, UK
In response to Jenny........
I note what you say ,however let us not beat about the bush ,thel legal aid system at present is pretty much dead on its feet. Let us also not forget that what underlies all these problems in the first place are "costs" and those "costs" (that are awarded to lawyers by the Courts) are based on the hourly rates charged by lawyer/solicitors. Now if we had the same system as in France each party would bear most of their own costs. That way people would be much much more likely to settle before litigation, would go to arbitration instead of litigation and would try every route to settle without issuing proceedings. What therefore puzzles me is why the Lord Chancellor or Government do not change the way the system works viz et viz Costs and make each party bear their own costs. That would also have an indirect effect of Civil (as opposed to criminal) legal aid in that defendants of a proposed action would likely settle rather than defend.
John, Woking, UK
In response to John...
I work in legal aid and am deeply concerned about the consequences of the proposed legal aid reform.
Legal aid lawyers themselves are not paid hundreds of pounds an hour. And I hope I speak for others when I say that they work for much less because they believe in providing the access to justice that is at the heart of legal aid.
It is worth bearing in mind that amongst those in biggest opposition to the leal aid reforms are those solicitors who work hard to provide access to justice in increasigly difficult cirumstances.
Jenny, Manchester,
Let me just add to my earlier comment. I had a civil claim. I appointed a solicitor whot obtained legal aid. He then carried out some work and then said he was too busy. The LSC advised I find another solicitor. I did and they too obtained a legal aid certificate. Then as with the first one they did not progress the case. The LSC then advised that I appoint a 3rd solicitor and get a counsel's advice prepared. I did that and eventually counsel prepared an advice saying the claim should proceed to trial. The LSC then withdrew the certificate. THAT perhaps is just one example of how ridiculous the whole legal aid system is, combined with the fact that solicitors seem to think that it is a god given right for them to be paid £150 plus per hour or they are poorly paid. They should be reminded that in the "real" World many people carry out worthwhile jobs such as nursing ,ambulance person ,teacher etc etc for damn sight less, so perhaps they should stop bleating and get on with working .
John, Woking, UK
What a farce this whole Country is now .There actually is no access to justice now unless you have plenty of cash ,the rest of us have to take our own Justice I guess. All this rubbish they are talking now makes no difference, the legal aid system is already dead and buried. Kind of reminds me of a story I heard as a kid, the words Goose and Golden spring to mind , and now a new one, legal aid lawyers, after all it is lawyers who must be paid hundreds or pounds an hour poor souls !.
John, Woking, UK
Its not a matter of race, its a matter of quality fo service. The government is proposing at hand legal aid money from geographically representative niche law firms across the UK to big, fat city firms. These firms are the kind that Lord Carter comes from, where £700,000 year end bonuses are common. This government has dropped the ball on the NHS and doctors and now it is turning its attention to legal-aid lawyers. Legal aid lawyers make half to a third of what city solicitors make and work as many if not more hours. Sweeping changes without proper research which affects the most vulnerable in our society, whatever their race, is election suicide. Where are the other parties with their alternatives - the Torries should be mailing out redundancy notices to the LSC staff right now.
Seth Richardson, London,
The gravy train that encourages criminals to prolong the legal process has got away with it for far too long and at long last the disgraceful legal aid system is being overhauled. Every tax payer should welcome this change. At long last the greedy legal representative will have less attraction for getting their guilty 'client' to plead 'not guilty' in order to prolong their period of freedom or conviction and to clog up the system so that the CPS might drop the case. Of course, by doing this the solicitor gets enhanced legal aid fees. If its much harder to get legal aid then the offender wont want to incur extra costs if he's paying himself. And what's all this - The Society of Asian Lawyers and Black Solicitors Network, I know that there is an over-representation of ethnic offenders being brought to justice, but where's any mention of white associations. If this was the other way round the racist cry would be loud & vociferous. I hope the Lord Chancellor stands his ground. No u-turns
Lynda Plum, London, England
The case against the LSC proposals is following the Carter report is overwhelming and in complete contrast to the lack of supporting evidence that the LSC are able to rely on. Witness after witness before the DCA select committee slammed the proposals. The DCA select committee have issued a damning condemnation of the proposals referring to the lack of research lack of pilot projects to test them. The Otterburn report commissioned by the LSC and both the LECG reports commissioned by The Law Society highlight the grave danger to legal aid firms and public access to justice. Can it really be that the Government and the LSC are right and everyone else with knowledge of the subject is wrong? These proposals must be put on hold until proper research has been carried out.
ROBIN MURRAY, TONBRIDGE KENT, UK