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I was always a pleaser. At school I did exceptionally well and got a first at a top university. I was pleased because I’d got a first and pleased because my parents were pleased. At university I’d learned how to pass exams but not how to think for myself. Which I think is why, when my mother suggested I do a law conversion course, I abandoned all thoughts of going in to publishing.
My father, a City lawyer himself, was keen too. “Why not just try it?” he said. “You can always give it up after a couple of years if you don’t like it.” So I thought. But ten years on there isn’t a chance I’d give up my job, and probably for all the wrong reasons. People talk about job-satisfaction but I can’t say I enjoy mine. I don’t hate it, I’m just not very passionate about it. I think of what I do much like I imagine a window cleaner thinks of his job – a means to an end.
I don’t do it for the status. I wouldn’t go to a party and say “hello, I’m a lawyer” with a beam of pride. It is slightly embarrassing to admit it sometimes. I have a friend who introduces himself as “Chris, I work at Chiswick Pet Cemetery,” but this makes people suspect that he is a solicitor, so it backfires.
My parents’ generation is impressed but the job was different in those days. Even the bankers who employ us think of us as a hindrance and an expense. What the parents don’t really get is how ruthless the profession has become. Everybody wants to be a partner and it’s always being dangled in front of your nose by bosses. It encourages ruthlessness, back-stabbing, senseless hard work and unbelievable sycophancy. Top lawyers are master politicians, masters at the backhanded compliment, necessarily made in public to denigrate a colleague. To paraphrase Gore Vidal, the City lawyer’s mindset can be described as the following: “When a colleague of mine succeeds, a little part of me dies.” If I talk to my friends doing so-called creative jobs, they always end up saying things like “how on earth can you do that all day?”, and sometimes I wonder.
Then I look at where they live and the size of their mortgage and I remember. What have I learned? Well, I am an absolute world-class paper shuffler. That’s what I do all day: and I feel paranoid. Thank God I don’t work in an open-plan office – my paranoia would spill over in front of my boss, which would be the kiss of death. It’s true that you should never trust a lawyer but especially true if you’re one yourself. You can’t trust anybody except for part-timers; if you’ve gone part-time it’s like telling your boss you’ve lost the will to live. I spend a lot of time making sure that I don’t look paranoid: plucked eyebrows are helpful.
There was a new guy in my office. He was nice but was obviously being bullied. I heard later that his boss got him to write his best-man speech at 2am, then tore it up in front of him the next day. The guy eventually quit. I saw him a few days before he handed in his notice, stuffing a sandwich in his mouth, obviously trying not to cry. I couldn’t have possibly said anything to him as he would have found it too humiliating. What would I have said, anyway? “I had my breakdown in the emergency exit stairwell of our law firm.” Which is sort of true. That was the time a colleague “playfully” pointed out that I had dandruff from all the stress. My advice to budding lawyers: never wear black in a law firm.
I used to feel sick at the thought of not making partner, more often these days I just feel sick. I know lawyers who have semi-retired at 40 with nice cars and second homes. I don’t even like cars. What I’d really like is another career.
A lot of lawyers think that it’s cutting-edge to work until 2am often but they don’t need to. I’m always slightly amazed when I see how emotionally involved some get with their deals, which after all, are deals they’re doing on behalf of clients.
There are lawyers who will be devastated if a deal collapses. I’d rather it be my deal in the first place, but I think I’ve become too risk-averse for that. Working in law makes you wary of taking risks. In the end very few lawyers chuck in their jobs.
I suppose the real reason I did law was because it was the easiest option. I have friends who love it and friends who hated it so much that they left – scarred by sexist bosses or the bad jokes that lawyers send to each other via e-mail.
It’s not a great job if you can’t stand being told what to do or if you’re allergic to hierarchies. It’s not particularly good for meeting people, either. There are lawyers so pale from being indoors that they look ill. You’ll find a lot of them on internet dating sites. I’m lucky, I have a partner – not a lawyer – and a bombshell: I’ll be asking for maternity leave later this year.
The author’s name has been changed.
As told to STEFANIE MARSH
For three months, I worked 12-14 hours every day
Jonny Goldstone began a training contract at Clifford Chance in 2002. He left one year after he qualified, in 2005, and now runs a private car hire firm in London with another former solicitor.
I had wanted to be a lawyer for a long time, partly because my dad was a barrister. I chose to become a solicitor over the bar for security. I applied for two-year training contracts to Freshfields, Linklaters and Clifford Chance. I had always been the top of my class, gone to Cambridge and so on, and in many way I opted for “magic circle” law firms without thinking. I had just always thought of myself as the kind of person who would be the best. Looking back it was all a bit of a production line.
At first I enjoyed it. The long hours were a shock but I was working on a high-profile case, sitting in on board meetings, being flown first class to Zambia a few times. It was exciting.
But gradually you realise how misguided that is. Magic circle law firms are probably the worst if you want to be creative. A trainee’s work – whichever department you’re in – is almost all dull. There’s a lot of photo-copying and proofing – you’re involved in high-profile deals but your role is minimal.
The real killer is the hours. On a typical day I’d leave around 9pm. If you stayed beyond then your taxi and dinner were free – so there’s an incentive to stick around. If you finished your work at 7.30pm, you’d be likely to stick around. I’d often work longer than that. I’d say I stayed after midnight many more times than I went home at six.
I once did a massive deal where, for three months solid, I worked 12 to 14-hour days, every day bar one, including the weekends. At one point I didn’t go home for two days and had to catch a quick two-hour nap in one of the rest rooms – they actually have rooms with beds. I had just two days off in lieu for that whole period.
It can be really demoralising. This stuff is stomachable when there’s an end in sight. But when you qualify after two years, you start thinking, can I really bear to do this for the rest of my life? Loads of people want to leave – I remember a lot of cynical conversations with other trainees in taxis home at four in the morning, saying “What are we doing?!” – but there’s a lot of pressure to stay. If I were still there I’d probably be on about £70,000 or £80,000. But I’d look at some of the partners – who can take home £800,000 a year – and see a very low quality of life. Those with families hardly ever saw them. Ten minutes on the phone to little Billy on a Friday night – it’s not what I wanted.
I don’t think you get much respect from lawyers and clients as a trainee or junior. Senior lawyers start to lose all perspective on the work-life balance, and just don’t accept any need for a social life. What they seem to want is people who won’t ask too many questions, but will knuckle down and get on with it.
You live in fear of having to cancel things. I missed birthdays and I once had to miss a friend’s wedding. It was on a Sunday and I finally made it halfway through the meal. You end up just not making plans, and finding that a lot of your friends are other city workers who understand.
If you said you simply couldn’t stay, it would be remembered. Likewise, if you were seen leaving the office regularly at 6pm, even if you had finished your work, you worried that you would be considered lazy. The billable hours system breeds a very inefficient work ethic, where people try to make their work last longer. There is the odd story of people snapping, saying “Sod you, go and find someone else”. But then they will and you’ll have ruined someone else’s evening. You’re under pressure from others but also yourself.
You are encouraged to socialise with other lawyers. At 5 o’clock on Fridays, a silver drinks trolley would come round stocked with beers, wines and expensive whiskies. If you were still working, you’d have a drink but it was a very artificial attempt at being sociable, and emphasised how lonely it could be.
When I did a six-month stint in Madrid it was a totally different work culture. When you went for lunch at 2pm you were not expected back before 4pm and you’d leave the office at about 7pm or 8pm. If you went in at the weekends, it was empty. The clients just understood that you wouldn’t work nonstop. Here you get the feeling that if only the partners had the balls to say no, things would be very different.
When I left, I noticed a lot of admiration and envy. I don’t think many of the people who stayed enjoy their work, and if I were still there I think I would be a lot more cynical as a person and unhappy.
Some aspects of the traineeship were new and exciting. But the novelty wears off after a while, especially when you qualify and start looking for a quality of work that you never get. The money versus the stress of long, dull hours and no life outside them is not a fair trade-off.
As told to FRANCESCA STEELE
What the bloggers say
Really sad story. I don’t give a c**p about my job or career, if I get sacked I’ll get another somewhere else. Some partners really test trainees just for a laugh. City culture needs to change. Work (especially law) is just not that important MYSHKIN
I’ve been doing 15-hour days for the past three months . . . luckily don’t have to work on Sunday. It’s a choice we make. We all get beasted FARANG
A huge proportion of the kids hothoused at expensive private schools to get into Oxbridge aren’t particularly bright but are well educated. People given everything on a plate are much more likely to feel pressure than those who experience hardship growing up US DOLLAR
It’s a Faustian pact. You work like a c*** and then one day, with a fair wind, you make partner and work some other c*** half to death LILY LILY
Let’s not forget the poor guy was relatively newly qualified. Keen newly qualifieds with a boy/girl scout attitude get beasted whatever dept they are in as the two-year qualifieds thank the lord and delegate as much as they can to the newbie DOGWARDEN
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Hi Thiery Chambers, You misunderstood Nick Mortimer. In London, a 'black' cab is an offical taxi. He wasn't talking about the colour of the driver. That aside, some interesting comments. What I wonder is whether I will succeed in a City law firm. Most posters on this blog talk of Oxbridge, top of the class, first class honours... Academically I am very average to below average. I'm a very relaxed person but I deliver results well. What will happen to me in private practice City law?
Joe, London, UK
Hey Nick Mortimer (from Toulouse, France),
Yours was an interesting and short insight to the dramas of being a lwayer, but what was the relevance of mentioning that you cab driver mate is Black??? I thought that you were going to mention a rascist attack on him by a stressed out lawyer....or something like that.
Do people go around describing your race along with your occupation for no relevance? A bit silly don't you think. Hmm, maybe something for you to think about next time.
Thiery Chambers, Sydney, Australia
Yes it can tough but we chose it, didn't we? Less of the whinging, please; heat and kitchen....
Trainee, London,
This story is very sad, but this could happen to anyone. I don't think this happens because his work, many people work under pressure and stress and they don't die frecuently. This is just bad luck.
Hector , S.J., Puerto Rico
I am a corporate lawyer in a Magic Circle firm. My job is not perfect, and you definitely need to be reasonably robust to cope, but it is well paid and has offered some amazing opportunities. I have been able to live and work overseas and am about to do so again. My training has provided me with a set of transferable and very marketable skills. Yes, sometimes, and in the current market frequently, lawyers have to work incredibly hard but no-one is making any of us do it. A bit of imagination and a resignation letter later and anyone of us could walk away. Whatever has happened to Matthew, and let's be clear that no-one knows yet, his death is tragic. However, to link it to the job he did is, at best, an over-simplification. Shame on The Times and the other papers that slavishly followed the lead. I think I would find it more personally stressful to work in a job where sensationalism and supposition were prized above fact and where I was expected to make phonecalls to grieving parents.
Claire, London,
I qualified as a solicitor in a London firm in 2000, as did my wife whom I met at law school. We had seen the misery and stress of other solicitors and knew that we didn't want to end up enslaved to long hours with no purpose.
We made a decision to live off only one of our salaries and save the rest. This gave us ample to live on and meant that we could downsize at any time without taking a financial hit. In 2003 I left law to do a theology degree in Cambridge and my wife went part time so that we could start a family.
I am now a clergyman in London earning a fraction of my former salary and working even longer hours than I did as a lawyer. But I love my work and know the meaning of job satisfaction.
To all trainees I say keep an escape route open. When times are dark you know that you can still get out of it.
Toby, London,
The magic circle law firms will feel guilty for one day, and then it will be back to normal; memories are short. I'm glad God did not endow me with a propensity for memory work and paper pushing and that huge addiction to money that encumbers many lawyers.
K T, London,
I can sympathize. I was a divisional CID inspector in Hong Kong for twelve years. A minimum of 12-14 hours was the norm, plus phone calls (mostly from lawyers who didn't care that they were waking me up) at home when trying to sleep. My longest continuous shift was 72 hours. One month my bosses cut 100 hours of overtime from my balance because I had not sought their permission to have such a high balance when they wouldn't give me time off.
There were no bonuses, no partnerships, and never so much as a thank you. I wasn't alone. And it's not just lawyers and police: doctors, nurses, and all the other people upon whom we rely without thinking have it much the same too.
Look, if you think your boss is a **** it's because he is one. If you hate your job, then find the courage to quit and do something else.
True misery is born the moment you let your boss think that he owns you - so don't let it happen.
I quit, and have a life at last, but it's my own fault I didn't have one sooner.
Mark, Hong Kong, PRC
If you dont like it quit. That simple. I was a magic cirlce lawyer and quit to be a banker. Awesome hours; awseome job. So if you are not happy bin it and do something you want to do. Dont just cry to the cabby about it - that is just weak. Take control of your own life. You only have one.
Ollie, London,
I'm a trained accountant from practice not a city practice and my experience is vastly different from the city lawyers in the article. I had some long days as you would expect but I never worked weekends. There was also a team culture for knowledge sharing as a junior and later with juniors. I'm very surprised reading the blogs that beasting seems to be accepted as a right of passage. Not everyone will make partner or will want to as you get older family make take over from work. Ambition is fine and hard work should bring rewards. But should the cost of making partner be a frightened and bullied work force and if so what does that say about you as a person and/or an employer. More importantly do clients want this type of representation only time will tell on that one.
Seamus, Ealing, London
he probably just slipped. Working at Magic Circle is not as bad as some people claim it is and not half as bad as it used to be.
Phil Baring, London, UK
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