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LET’s talk about sex. Christie Hefner, chief executive of Playboy Enterprises, doesn’t even blanch at the suggestion.
“I don’t think there is anything wrong with sex. I think there is something wrong with linking violence with sex, which a number of movies do, but I don’t think adults having the chance to watch other adults in sexual situations in their home is in the least bit negative.”
Then she takes another bite of her grilled-chicken sandwich. We are sitting in the tea room in London’s swish Claridge’s hotel. Hefner, slim and elegant and looking younger than her 54 years, has just flown in from Russia to open a new Playboy shop on Oxford Street, the company’s first investment here for 30-odd years.
She is keen to broaden Playboy, best-known for the magazine founded by her father, Hugh, into a lifestyle company, selling licensed fashion and homewares to a new generation of consumers – women in particular. That shift in strategy seems an odd mix for a company that also sells soft-core porn in its magazine, and hardcore porn via cable, satellite and internet. The people at the table next door have just stopped talking and started listening.
Hefner shrugs her shoulders. So she has no qualms about how pornography can exploit women?
“Sure I have qualms,” she says, gesturing round, “but I have the same qualms about how the restaurant business exploits women, too. I am only responsible for how the business we do treats employees, and I take that very seriously.”
She reaches for a napkin. Hefner, boss of Playboy for 19 years, has batted off such questions for so long it’s second nature. Like her 81-year-old father, she is an articulate defender of anyone’s right to look at whatever they want, so long as nobody is exploited.
These are tricky subjects these days, but Chicago-based Playboy – which floated as a public company in 1980 – pulls it off as well as any. Now it’s capitalising on its perceived trendiness among 18 to 30-year-olds, less averse to raunch culture.
So it does pay-TV, internet, shops and licensing, as well as the famous magazine, and last year made a small $2.3m (£1m) profit on $331m revenue. The year before it made a net loss, but that, says Hefner, is because it was investing hard for the future.
She finishes her sandwich and pointedly ignores the bowl of pommes frites she also ordered. Hefner, one of the first high-profile female chief executives in corporate America, is renowned for her discipline and focus.
Yet she shows none of the prickliness of power. Greying hair held loose on her shoulders, designer suit matching her shoes, her father’s brown eyes flashing amusement, she is warmly eloquent on just about any subject you throw at her.
She is the eldest child from Hef’s – even she calls him Hef – first marriage, to Chicago teacher Millie Williams. Her parents divorced in 1959 when she was six, and Hef became “like a favourite uncle, we saw him birthdays and Christmas, but he didn’t look at report cards or know who your friends were”.
His suggestion two decades later that she join his business – before starting law school – was about rebuilding that relationship, she says. She never left, worked her way up, and since then has proved that she’s a better chief executive than her father, who never knew when to stop spending.
He handed over responsibility after suffering a stroke in the late 1980s, and now lives in his famous silk pyjamas with three young blonde girlfriends at the Playboy Mansion in Los Angeles. “He is chief creative officer now,” says Hefner, with a smile.
No embarrassment about her dad’s lifestyle choices? She gives me a look. “If it makes my father happy to be dating three women in their twenties and thirties, and if I believe they care about him, and he cares about them, then I’m happy for them.”
That lifestyle – envied by some – underpins Playboy’s move into upmarket, licensed goods. The new shop in Oxford Street, its ninth in the world, is owned by licensee Global Designer Brands and spread over three storeys. It carries lingerie, gymwear, robes, glasses, tuxedos and dresses, all made with Playboy’s rabbit logo designed in.
Playboy magazine and the company’s porn offerings are nowhere to be seen. Instead, £50 thongs and cocktail shakers predominate. It’s strictly Footballers’ Wives, without the rude bits. But financially, it works.
The global sales of Playboy-branded goods have now passed $800m – from which Hefner’s organisation banks $33m. The operating profit on those royalties matches that of Playboy’s media division. It is also now licensing venues that combine entertainment, gambling and restaurants – a return to the clubs it abandoned in the 1980s, albeit with less risk involved.
“These are two strong growth engines,” says Hefner. “We’d like to do a venue here, but there seems to be a bit of uncertainty about the gaming regulation in Britain. We’re going to wait and see.”
Hefner’s success with licensing comes after a patient “clean-up” of the company’s previous portfolio. “I’m not joking, I inherited Playboy air freshener and fuzzy dice,” laughs Hefner.
Yet if mainstream goods targeting women provide the growth, where does that leave the magazine – run at a loss in recent years – and its pay-TV and online offerings? Playboy bought hardcore porn company Spice TV in 1999, and and Club Jenna in America last year. Strategically, it seems to be doing the splits.
Hefner’s tone becomes steelier. “The adult companies were acquired in response to demand from distribution channels,” she says.
As for the magazine, which sells 2.7m copies in America and is published under licence in 22 countries worldwide, yet still runs at a loss: “That’s a function of the publishing business. It outsells every other men’s magazine in the world.”
And there is no gender split – its magazine and pay-TV channels are popular with women, too. “It’s an acceptable sexiness that women are comfortable with.”
Really? Most women I know find Playboy’s pneumatic, air-brushed ideal of womanhood laughable. Really, she says.
“We have a blue-chip list of stockholders and we wouldn’t have that if people didn’t have confidence in the strategies of the company and its potential.”
Well, maybe. In truth, Playboy seems to have flip-flopped in strategy, and missed a trick in the 1990s when it should have expanded its magazine offerings into the mainstream.
“We tried,” admits Hefner. “We bid for Automobile magazine, and for Wired, but were outbid by [Condé Nast owner] Si Newhouse.” More recently, Playboy was tipped as a bidder for Maxim magazine.
Not interested, says Hefner. “Print is not a robust business. Most magazines are thinking the way we’ve been thinking for years – they should be brands and content that live beyond their pages.”
So why not sell Playboy magazine to a larger publisher, and live from the licensing income? Because the brand is entwined with the values portrayed by the magazine, and you can’t slice off something so vital.
More importantly, as TV meshes with the internet, content providers like Playboy foresee big profits from regaining control of the consumer relationship. Until then, Hefner is cautiously adding three outlets a year to the shop chain, and targeting more entertainment venues. Playboy’s prospects, she insists, really are on the up.
Will she carry on for another two decades at the top? Hefner tilts her head. “I don’t know – right now I don’t think I’m running out of energy or good ideas.”
Yet no-one is going to knock her off the top. The Hefner family controls the majority of the voting stock. Her brother is busy running his own company in California.
The next line of Hefners – her teenage half-brothers – are too young. And Hefner herself, married to former senator William Marowitz since 1995, has no children. As for inviting in private equity, she shakes her head.
Is this what she expected to do with her life? Not at all, she says. She read English and American literature at university and fancied a career in law or journalism, even politics. Her mother used to take her canvassing and she retains that fascination with power. She is a close backer of presidential candidate Barack Obama. “We work out in the same gym,” she smiles.
Old friends say Hefner has always been good at networking. She inherited her father’s competitiveness and persuasive charm – but with an added sense of duty.
Roxanne Decyk, corporate affairs director at Royal Dutch Shell, puts it simply: “The single thing that distinguishes Christie from other determined business leaders is that she has a gift for relationships. She is extraordinarily thoughtful.”
But wouldn’t Hefner love to prove herself outside Playboy? There’s no answer to that. Later, though, Hefner does tell me she prefers playing blackjack to roulette in casinos – she won in Moscow last week.
“What does that say about me? It says I play a game where the odds are on the side of the player, if you know how to play it well.” She laughs and wrinkles her nose.
I’ll settle for that.
CHRISTIE HEFNER’S WORKING DAY
THE Playboy Enterprises chief executive wakes at her duplex apartment in Lincoln Park, Chicago, before 8am. Christie Hefner usually takes a taxi to her office, stopping at Starbucks to buy a latte coffee on the way. She goes into meetings after 9am. “I have two group presidents reporting to me and three senior corporate staff. My management style involves a lot of collaboration, hearing points of view. I don’t see proofs of Playboy magazine, but read it after publication.” She has a salad for lunch and later works until 6.30pm, then goes to the gym. She tries to fit in four two-hour workouts each week. She travels two weeks a month.
VITAL STATISTICS
Born:November 8, 1952
Marital status:married, no children
School:New Trier West, Illinois
University:Brandeis, Massachusetts
First job:journalist
Salary package:$775,000 plus bonus
Home:Chicago
Car:black Audi S4 convertible
Favourite book:On Chesil Beach, by Ian McEwan
Favourite music:Tierney Sutton
Favourite film:The Lives of Others
Favourite gadget:Treo
Last holiday:Napa Valley
DOWNTIME
CHRISTIE HEFNER relaxes by cycling, skiing, scuba diving and playing tennis. “I’m an aggressive singles player, from the baseline, I’m not strong at the net.” She spends her money on travelling and presents. “I like giving gifts to people I care about.”
She is involved in a number of charitable and political organisations, and regularly goes to the cinema and theatre. But her favourite pastime is cooking.
“About once a month my husband and I put together an interesting group of people, and we talk about a range of things, and I cook for them. It’s a dying art, and a nice thing to do.”
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