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Britain’s biggest nightclub operator vowed to tackle the issue of drink-related violence yesterday by introducing plastic glasses throughout its venues over the next 12 months.
The decision by Luminar, which runs about 120 of the UK’s biggest dancing venues, including the Liquid and Oceana chains, comes as the rest of the pub industry is stepping up attempts to stop police introducing glass bans.
The trade paper The Morning Advertiser has this week called on MPs to sign an early day motion opposing moves by police forces across the country to force pubs and clubs to replace glasses with polycarbonate containers.
The MP John Grogan, chairman of the All-Party Parliamentary Beer Group, said: “We are calling for a sensible approach rather than a blanket ban. Banning glass is the wrong way to attract a wide and diverse set of customers.”
Alcohol awareness campaigners claimed recently that a typical glassing incident costs the NHS £184,000 to deal with, before the cost of a police investigation is added to the equation.
In a recent meeting with senior figures from the Bar Entertainment & Dance Association (BEDA), Chris Allison, licensing spokesman for the Association of Chief Police Officers, stated his support for the introduction of polycarbonates as a means of preventing glass injuries.
Nathan Wall, operations director at JD Wetherspoon, who attended the BEDA meeting, said: “There’s a philosophical difference between us and the police. They are of the view that one glass injury is one too many, but ultimately we have to consider that we are punishing the vast majority.”
He said that Mr Allison had tried to argue that drinkers were happy to use polycarbonates, but he insisted: “Everything we’ve seen suggest that the general public hates that idea.”
The British Beer & Pub Association has argued that polycarbonates should be introduced only after a risk assessment showed that they were needed for public safety.
But Stephen Thomas, the chief executive of Luminar, said: “I think the pub trade are completely and utterly wrong. They’re talking nonsense. Country pubs and food-led venues are a different matter. But as a liquor-led business with a high footfall, why wouldn’t you be in favour of polycarbonates?” He said that the company expected that the move would reduce its insurance premiums as it would no longer be liable for claims from women taking their shoes off on the dance-floor and cutting their feet on broken glass.
He said that the latest generation of polycarbonate glasses were of good quality and Luminar would switch to them over the next 12 months, amounting to some 300,000 glasses. All bottled drinks would be poured into plastic glasses unless they too were made of polycar-bonate.
Luminar yesterday reported further progress in its turn-around, with full-year profits before tax and exceptionals from continuing operations rising by 11 per cent to £26.7 million. It said that like-for-like sales in its core branded dancing ventures had risen by 7.3 per cent since the year end on March 1.
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I have read all the comments & agree with Michael from Sheffield. Unless you have experienced it or seen it , you would be totally for the change no question. My Son was blinded in his right eye last year as a result of having a glass shoved in his face. It wasn't a chair, or a table, or a fist. No........we haven't got to ban 'everything' this is just being rediculous. Yes, it is certain individual that are the problem we know this, but It is at the end of the day, glassing incidents that are getting out of control. Check it out with the hospitals?
The thing is, we can save alot of unneccesary injuries by using polycarbonate glasses. I have used them & was very impressed. I would like to help promote the last orders on glass campaign if I can...........
Sharon Blackmore, Dereham, Norfolk
As a Doorman working in a busy city centre venue I'm all for plastic as Ive seen far too often the result of glass injuries within the industry.
And as for Michael Bennett's comments go, yes excess drinking does cause alcohol related violence, but what do you have in your hand at the time ??? thats right usually a pint glass or a glass bottle. & what do people use??? Oh yeah the glass or bottle in their hand then their fists & feet re furniature in my experience it has never been used as it takes too long for the aggresser to get it & use it.
innocent folk do get injured sometimes in these incidents and they deserve to be protected from the irrisponsible aggressive drinker. Plastics give them that extra protection
Anyone who is against plastics has obviously not experienced a glassing attack on themself nor had a close relative injured in this way otherwise they would not b against the idea
Michael, Sheffield,
I think this is bold move and a step in the right direction. As a seasoned real ale drinker i have to say there is no problem with the new polycarbonate glasses as far as drinking from them goes. The safety bonuses are worth the change, especially in city centre venues and high volumes drinking bars
Neil, Sheffield,
Glass is not the problem, excess drinking and alcohol related violence are the causes. What will we ban next, furniture, in case someone hits someone else over the head with a chair?
Michael Bennett, Manchester,
From a mother of a severe glassing victim and a campaigner for polycarbonate glasses and plastic bottles in nightclubs - for which we have received over 22,000 signatures of support, mainly from young people, I think this is fantastic news! Bournemouth has introduced this scheme, and in the last year they have reduced A&E intake on Fri/Sat by 70%,who can argue with that. To see what a glass attack can do take a look at www.pop-campaign.co.uk
Marjorie Golding, Newport Pagnell, UK
Try telling the parents/relatives of people who have suffered the horror of a serious glassing that this is the nanny state gone mad!
R McSharry, Halifax, W Yorks
Great idea - even better would be to have them made out of recycled plastic.
What's the attachment to glass anyway?! Does it make people feel more "adult"? Judging by the purely childish and irresponsible behaviour of many clubbers across the UK every weekend, I think plastic beakers would be welcomed with open arms - especially if they come in different bright colours and patterns ;o)
Kay Vasey, London,
A blanket ban on drinking out of glasses? This is the Nanny State gone mad!
Tim, Cambridge,
In principle, I am against any measure that penalises the many for the misdemeanours of the few. But, having seen the faces of men who have been 'glassed', as they spill out onto the street, I am 100 pc in agreement with the Police i.e that one glassing is one too many. We cannot assume that the victim 'got what he deserved', because it seems that the victim more often than not is completely innocent of any 'disrespect' to the assailant.
My congratulations to Luminar, and I hope the other operators follow their example immediately. I would ask every one of them to look at the pictures of a glassing victim, then consider their personal reaction if a son or daughter was glassed, and do the right thing.
clive, surrey,