Michael Evans, Defence Editor
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Two aircraft carriers to be built for the Royal Navy will have to be equipped with existing Harrier GR9 aircraft because their replacement, new-generation Joint Strike Fighters, will not be ready in time, the Ministry of Defence confirmed yesterday.
The first of the carriers is due to be in service in 2014. But David Gould, the MoD chief operating officer for equipment and support, told the Commons Defence Committee that the 36 Joint Strike Fighters (JSF) would come into service at a later date.
“The idea that we will have a carrier’s worth of fully productionised, trained and equipped JSFs in 2014 is not going to happen,” he said.
The MoD intends to buy 150 JSFs for the Royal Navy and the RAF, but the American and British defence companies developing the fighter have experienced severe technical challenges.
The GR9 is the latest version of the Harrier jump-jet which is in service in Afghanistan. It also operates off the Royal Navy’s existing carriers.
General Sir Kevin O’Donoghue, the Chief of Defence Materiel, told the committee that the MoD was facing severe financial restraints and predicted cutbacks and delays in other equipment projects. The MoD was granted a 1.5 per cent budget rise in real terms by the Treasury in last year’s Comprehensive Spending Review. But equipment costs have been increasing by at least 8 per cent.
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I really think they should reconsider on getting these aircraft & look for another option. Maybe navalise some of our Typhoon F2 aircraft. But until whenever these so-called "Stealth" JSF aircraft eventuly come into service or whatever other aircraft they decide to choose. They should definitely update our Harrier GR9's, give them a radar to start with, and a few avionics & weapons update, at least a radar & gun. Or if not, bring back our Harrier FA2 aircraft, theres nothing wrong with those. I really hope they consider those options. Yes, alot of us may think that we can spend money on other things, but we need to think, our armed forces need funding too, after all, they're the ones that put ther'ye lives at risk for us the most, alot of people forget that or don't think of that at all.
Wayne Towers, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Great Britain
If Britain is to maintain it's position as a major power then it has no choice but to maintain an expeditionary military capability. No such capability is credible without aircraft carriers to provide the necessary air cover. If the future of the JSF is in doubt then the MOD should begin planning for the purchase of conventionally launched carrier aircraft without delay.
It has been shown time and time again that any military operation conducted at any distance from British bases would not have been possible without carrier borne aircraft. Despite their claims to the contrary the RAF have never been able to provide this protection for the fleet or ground forces. The purchase of these ships and aircraft are pivotal to our security for the next half century and, as such, should be our main military procurement priority (including Trident).
david, southampton, UK
Why not outsource naval defence to the Swiss Navy? That would save a bundle.
Nick, Clayton, California
before we spend money on killing people , perhaps we could spend it on something useful like care for the aged and proper pay for the police
is there not something faintly absurd about an aircraft carrier with no sircraft?
peter codner, devizes, england
I think anyone who believes these 2 carriers will be built is living with their heads in the clouds! They were announced by this government in a defence review in 1999, nine years later and the plans haven't been finished let alone steel cut for construction. This is a smoke screen by the government to cover real defence cuts in the Royal Navy. Compare the number of escort vessels the Navy had in '99 to the numbers they have now, take into account the reduced number of Type 45 destroyers to be built. The excuse for these reductions ?..2 new carriers.
Kev T, Newcastle,
So we are building two huge aircraft carriers that will not be able to operate defensive fighters and have halved the number of destroyers (Type 45s) that were orginally planned as the second line of defence.
It's also worth pointing out that there is no planned Airborne Early Warning aircraft for the carriers either. A lack of this kind of aircraft was decisive in the sinking of many RN ships during the Falklands war.
We might as well scuttle them as soon as they're off the slipway.
Jon, London,
Ah, but think off all those lucky pregnant Polish women that can swan over here and suck money away from what should be priorities, ie, the JSF.
Doesnt that just give you a nice warm feeling.
Its about time this pathetic excuse of a government admitted that money is being diverted away from important projects to pay for their complete cock up over immigration!
Pete, St Albans, England
Really poor show here by HM Government.
When will there be some joined up thinking on Defence?
The RAF are in dire need of additional C17 Globemaster transport aircraft and brand new helicopter transport in addition to those recently purchased.
Mr Brown made some good decisions last year when he purchased those aircraft above, given the A400M is seriously delayed and Tristar and Hercules out of service or too old, i'd love to think he would consider buying more C17 immediately.
I think the RAF would love him if he did.
Kent Farnsworth, England,
The GR9 is a strike aircraft not an air defence fighter. Since the sea harrier was retired the RN has had no area air defence system. The new carriers, if built, will never be deployed without a proper fighter. Classic case of treasury dictating a flawed strategy.
Paul, Thorton Cleveleys, UK
The greatest enemy of the British Navy has always been the British Treasury. I seriously wonder if these two aircraft carriers are ever going to be built.
David Russell, Sheffield, South Yorkshire