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As a well-travelled Frenchman, Xavier Rolet doesn’t like to waste time. Barely have we said hello than he has sprung into a five-minute speech on strategy for companies selling a commoditised service. Then he has moved on to the importance of being a consolidator, not the target for someone else’s acquisition plans.
He has been much the same since May, when he started as chief executive of the London Stock Exchange — slicing fees and jobs, acquiring a big software supplier, opening negotiations to buy Turquoise, a rival operation, all the while love-bombing the investment banks that used to employ him. The London Stock Exchange, which reports interim figures in a fortnight, seems to have a whole new mindset.
“When you see clients creating competing entities,” he says, “that sends you a message that relationships are not what they should be. The exchange needs to lead from the front...”
Okay, slow down. This is all a shift in style from his predecessor Clara Furse, who was renowned in the City for her steely intellect and combative style, but spent so much of her eight-year reign repelling boarders — five takeover bids — that she had little time to plot future growth.
Then in comes Rolet, 50, suddenly job-free after the collapse of Lehman Brothers in France. He is every inch a self-made master of the universe. Born in a poor suburb of Paris, trained by the French air force, honed by Goldman Sachs in New York, then by Credit Suisse First Boston and Dresdner Kleinwort Benson in London, he cites rally-driving and wine as his passions, and has his own award-winning vineyard, Chêne Bleu, near Avignon, run by his American wife, a former banker.
Rolet even sounds like a luxury brand. Yet in the flesh, he is a different proposition. Tall, balding, bespectacled and preppily-dressed, he talks non-stop, switching deftly from the detailed to the light, never losing patience, always happy to explain his jargon-strewn sector.
He also takes the British need for mickey-taking on the chin. “You may call my accent mongrel. I call it international,” he laughs, citing its French, American and English roots.
As for the jokes about him being a French spy, sent in to subvert the City, he just grins. “What is it I could possibly spy on? The exchange is a listed company. And, by the way, my first wife was American, my second wife is half-American, half-Italian. I think I am more of a security risk for the French.” And he chuckles.
Driven, charming and chatty, Rolet may be just what the London Stock Exchange needs. He is also deadly serious about the business, which is both a pillar of the City and a FTSE 100 firm in its own right.
This month’s interim figures will show why Rolet wants to act fast. Trading volume has fallen since last year, and too much happens elsewhere — a trend started after the rules were relaxed on who could compete with the established exchanges. Only about 60% of FTSE 100 order book trading now goes through the London Stock Exchange. Then there’s futures, derivatives, fixed-income instruments...
Unless Rolet ensures that the London Stock Exchange is strong enough to expand, it may simply be bypassed. As an investment banker, he sat on the boards of rival exchanges Euronext and Nasdaq Europe. He knows how others think.
“The solution is threefold. One, you need to cut costs substantially. Two, you need to invent a better mousetrap, hence new technology gives you an edge. Three, you have to scale up. Once you have the lower cost base and some sort of competitive advantage you must buy out rivals and operate on a grander scale.”
Hence he has quickly “in-sourced” the exchange’s technology, buying Millennium IT, a Sri Lankan firm that will develop systems for its new owner and work on projects for outside clients. He has also started negotiations to buy Turquoise, the rival trading platform launched by nine investment banks that seemingly cannot agree on how to develop it further.
Uncharacteristically for Rolet, those negotiations are taking their time. “I don’t think they will go on much longer,” he shrugs. “Either we will buy them, or not.”
The sticking point? “That is confidential.” But if its owners cannot fund its future, why not just let it go under?
“We believe competition is here to stay. If they don’t survive others will come up, and more competition leads to fragmentation, especially in the visibility of transactions. There are now a number of institutions like pension funds saying they don’t know what is happening in markets, and a big discussion about whether some regulation should be introduced to make platforms more transparent.”
Rolet is adept at shifting the argument on to his own terms. He wants to position his exchange as a key player in the globalisation of financial regulation that must follow last year’s slump.
He cites worries over the growth in “dark pools”, which allow sellers of large tranches of stock to find a value without moving the market. Many are run by investment banks. The London Stock Exchange has launched its own version. The problem now is what regulators do to restore transparency.
“Competition in market infrastructure represents an internal contradiction,” he says. “Having a monopoly is the only sure way to promote a tight spread and a concentration of liquidity, but it can generate abusive behaviour. And if you have fragmentation you decrease the cost but get opacity.”
His response is to rebuild relationships with investment banks and provide a solution. “So you put an exchange in there as the control shareholder but with participation from other users. It’s partnership that provides what people want from an exchange: transparency and quality of rules management.”
The reach of exchanges will also have to mirror a new global, financial infrastructure. But so far the track record of crossborder exchange deals has been mixed — how will he make it work?
By being flexible, and remaining strong. “There are going to be mergers and acquisitions and pooling of assets, involving partnerships and technology deals. For the London Stock Exchange, the key is to realise value here and keep bidders at bay. We were worth £980m in market value when I took over; we are worth £2.5 billion now, so we’re not cheap.”
That suggests support for Rolet’s prioritising of technology and scale — though his business still lags Deutsche Börse and NYSE Euronext in value. Analysts say they want more costs cut so the exchange can compete better on price, and its ownership of Borsa Italiana used more effectively to increase share in Europe, where volumes could triple in the next few years.
And that’s before you even look beyond equities at other products. So how different is all this to Furse’s strategy? For once, Rolet’s flow stops.
“Maybe we were a bit arrogant and didn’t listen on fees and technology,” he concedes eventually. “But Clara saw off five bids, two of which were highly leveraged and were waved through by regulators — so, by the way, if they had happened, the exchange would not be here now — but it was difficult for her to focus on anything else. She still did the Borsa Italiana transaction that gives us optionality and broadens our portfolio. What we want to do is establish the exchange as a global player.”
Those who have worked with Rolet say he has the abilities to pull it off. Jeremy Isaacs, partner at JRJ group and formerly with Lehman, describes him as ferociously clever and brave. “He has real backbone. If he has a point of view, he will stick to it, whatever the pressure.”
His weakness is his lack of FTSE 100 experience — though his chairman, Chris Gibson-Smith, has that in spades. Rolet is also loquacious to a daunting degree.
But that comes with a drive rooted in his upbringing in the tough Parisian banlieue of Sarcelles. Both his parents fought for the French army in Algeria. Rolet, with two sisters, worked hard to get out. After swapping the French air force for an MBA at Columbia University in New York, he found a mentor in Goldman Sachs’s Robert Rubin, who went on to head the US Treasury for President Bill Clinton.
Rolet cut his teeth in risk arbitrage, and later moved to London to co-head European equity sales in 1990. He joined Credit Suisse First Boston in 1994 and Dresdner Kleinwort Benson three years later. By 2000 he was deputy co-head of Lehman’s global equity trading. In 2007 he became chief executive of Lehman in France.
Any happy homecoming was cut short when the American bank collapsed in 2008. Did he see it coming? No, he says, though it is plain he blames senior management in New York for failing to secure a merger that might have saved Lehman.
Equally, he questions the logic of letting Lehman go under. “Has it contributed to rebalancing the moral hazard, or done the opposite of what was intended? Would a government let a bank fail now? No. So the unintended consequence is never to let it happen again.”
He shakes his head. He was lucky. Lehman in France was sold cleanly without going into administration. “If it had, it would have been less credible for me to aspire to directorships,” he admits.
The offer from the London Stock Exchange came out of the blue. Would he have taken it in normal circumstances?
“It’s challenging but I think I was born for it,” he grins. “I know the client side. I can see the technology and cost problems — not being chief executive of a FTSE firm, that’s the issue.”
As for being French, London’s strength is that it is international. “On my executive board I have two Italians, an Irishman, a Briton, a Sri Lankan and me. It’s about competencies.”
So will he cut his dividend to fund a war-chest? It has been suggested. He frowns. “I can’t comment,” he says, but hints that it’s unlikely.
Then he lets his guard down. “Look, the story of the London Stock Exchange is that these guys did not manage to upgrade their model, they’re coming off a monopoly position into a violently competitive market, and they are going to be obsolete. And part of that is true. That’s why I am taking a lot of steps.”
Yet some feel he is heading only one way: turning the London Stock Exchange into a technology business. In a decade, a new boss will come from Microsoft or Google, not investment banking.
For Rolet, that’s fine. And 20 minutes later he is offering to send me a bottle of his esteemed wine. Vive la différence — investors can make up their own minds later.
The life of Xavier Rolet
Vital Statistics
Born: November 12, 1959
Family status: married, with three children
School: Lycée Sarcelles, Paris
Universities: Ecole Supérieure de Commerce, Paris, and Columbia, New York
Pay: £650,000 plus a bonus of up to 225%
Home: Pimlico, London
Car: Land Rover Defender
Book: Julius Caesar’s Commentaries on the Gallic and Civil Wars
Film: The Searchers
Music: Erik Satie, Ravel
Gadget: Scubapro regulator for diving
Last holiday: South Pole on L’Astrolabe oceanographic ship. “I have a lot of friends in the geopolitical and defence studies world.”
Working Day
The chief executive of the London Stock Exchange wakes at his house in London’s Pimlico at 6am. “I start by calling Asia,” says Xavier Rolet, “and get a feel for the markets.”
He takes the Tube to his office in Paternoster Square, by St Paul’s Cathedral, for an 8am start. “Every day we have a one-and-a-half hour executive committee meeting. It used to be 16 people twice a month; I’ve reduced it to six people daily. We look at strategy, new opportunities, tactical reviews and then day-to-day stuff.” Rolet will often lunch contacts at Le Gavroche. He will also attend functions in the evening, rarely getting home until 10pm. Twice a week he travels outside London.
Downtime
“I love skiing, rally-driving, scuba-diving and bee-keeping,” says Xavier Rolet, listing his favourite pastimes. The bees reside at his vineyard near Avignon, which is overseen by his wife, his sister and his brother-in-law. “Chêne Bleu, our white, just got a gold medal at the International Wine Challenge in London,” he says.
He recently competed in the Paris-Dakar rally. “Friends said it was a mid-life crisis but it is probably ongoing.” He is now prevented from competing again as a FTSE 100 chief executive.
“I couldn’t get the insurance,” he says glumly. He was 50 last week but says he has no plans to celebrate. “I’ll be away.”
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