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The British Bankers' Association has told Mervyn King, the Governor of the Bank of England, to refrain from commenting publicly on City pay, after Mr King criticised bankers' salary packages yesterday.
Speaking today at a conference for company treasurers, Angela Knight, chief executive of the BBA, said that Mr King should avoid provoking public squabbles with the banking sector.
Mr King had told the Treasury Select Committee yesterday that the big pay packets available in the City were deterring talented graduates from joining other industries. "I do think it is rather unattractive that so many young people, when contemplating careers, look at the compensation packages available in the City and think that these dominate almost any other type of career," Mr King said.
"That is not an attractive position to be in when such a high proportion of our talented, young people naturally think of the City as the first place to work in... It should be one of the places, but not the only one."
The Governor also said that the compensation structures at some banks had encouraged a dangerous level of risk-taking that had helped push the world into a liquidity crisis.
"Banks have come to realise they are paying the price for having designed compensation packages which provide incentives that are not, in the long run, in the interests of the banks themselves," Mr King said.
The City paid out about £7.2 billion in bonuses for 2007.
Ms Knight hit back today at the ACT Annual Conference, according to a report by Bloomberg. She told the conference that although the Bank Governor may have been correct on some points, it was not helpful to argue about executive compensation in the public eye.
"This is a financial services industry on which a lot of jobs are hanging," she is reported as saying. "I don't think we should have the luxury of public squabbles." Ms Knight went on to say that she was glad that bright, young people were attracted to banking.
The central bank Governor is the second prominent figure to criticise bank wages in recent weeks. Last week Richard Lambert, Director General of the Confederation of British Industry (CBI) said that there was a misalignment between the interests of bank executives and the companies' shareholders. He said that bankers took risks with investors' cash that they would not have done with their own, in pursuit of quick profits.
Mr Lambert said: "This pattern of behaviour has been exacerbated by a remuneration structure which has encouraged some employees to take spectacular short-term risks, confident that if things work out well they will reap huge rewards, and if they don't they won't be around to pay the price. If it had been their own equity at risk, things might have played out differently."
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Mr King is absolutely right. Those bankers gambled with the others money. Victims of the financial crisis are not those bankers but the innocent people in the street. While those bankers receives months of salary as bonus, poor humble citizens are having their home foreclosed.
Johnny Cheung, Hong Kong, HK
Angela Knight was a Minister in the last Tory Government so you would not expect her to understand the Public's loathing for careless, selfish and greedy bankers. No doubt when Dave Camoron gets in all of the Tory Shadow Ministers who are currently working in the Banking sector will return to rule.
Major John, Basing, England
"Sir Desmond" King and Lambert (and McBroon) were publicly silent on this over years - everyone knew what was happening with investments and remunerations.
It's clear they were happy so long as the system worked to produce positive results, but when it went pear-shaped they looked for scapegoats.
Padraig, Perth, Australia
Bravo Mervyn King & Richard Lambert - 99.99% of people agree. Angela Knight should keep quiet with her defence of the indefensible.
A friend working at GS told me "it is right to anything to make money and if you don't think that you shouldn't be in the City". QED. Hope his kind get reposessed
Davie P, London,
Wake up Angela Knight.
Harish, Croydon, UK
We seem to have got the UK into a situation where the risk of a collapse in the financial industry leading to major fall in UK GDP without much compensation from old style industry which has run down is much too great. In such circumstances huge incentives to the City is not a good national strateg
Brian Lewis, Manila, Philippines
It seems to me that as soon as this present credit crisis is over the risk takers and their greed will be right back taking huge risks for huge profits with no downside to their personal finacial well being. CEOs of Merrill, CityGroup, Bear Sterns, Northern Rock lost their jobs but not their fortune
Jacques Lilly, London, England
I should have gone in banking: behave for 2 years, get small bonus. After that, take unacceptable risks: you either make a fortune for the bank and get a huge bonus. Or you loose your job - there is actually very little risk (look at leeson: again making 100.000/year)
Peter, London,
'Abdrew' from London, that was Mervyn's point. Because you get a percentage of profits, you are more inclined to take unpalatable risks (with shareholder money) to acquire more. You have a significant upside stake, but where is your downside? It just encourages short termism and creative accountancy
Shane, Guildford, England
I work as a trader in the City. I work very long hours and have a poor quality of social life Mon-Fri. I built up a large debt to achieve a degree and MBA . I compete against some of the smartest people in finance and banking. I make my employer a lot of money and i expect to get paid a % of it..
Abdrew, London,
"bright, young people were attracted to banking"
Are they? More like greedy young people. While bankers ought to be bright, from what I've seen intelligence and common-sense haven't been of major importance in the financial world.
Chris K, Cheltenham, UK
Why are they discussing bonuses when the banking system is in such a mess.I would have thought discussing P45s would be more realistic.
stephen hulton, eure, france
Credit crunch is due to Irresponsible leading by banks and credit agencies.
It's also due to us all living beyond our means, making the economy appear as if booming but the bubble was bound to burst, they knew this.
They promote this style of living via Sigmund Fraud tactics.
Wake Up!!!!
Andrew T, England, uk,
Fully support Mr King. Banker and city workers should only receive any bonuses after waiting at least one year to approve their 'real' achievement.
John yu, London,
Let's be realistic, you don't go to work in the City banking sector because you love to make money for other people. It is because of the huge payoffs.
SO, England,
The bottom line is this. It is a sin to make money from loaning out money. Those who do, are the real grasshoppers of the world as they perform no useful function and live off the ofttimes hard labor of the "ants." See the internet film, "The Money Masters" on Google. It inspires lynching bankers
victor compton, Cherbourg, France
The solution is to nationalize banks and pay salaries that represent a rational rate of reward. Banks are run by administartors that are gambling peoples money to ensure they receive the big bonuses that they have cleverly built into their pay structure at the expense of their clients. Stop the rot!
Jim Wills, Brisbane , Australia
The silver-tongued Angela Knight, bank spokesperson, would naturally think it 'unhelpful' to highlight the enormous sums that have been paid to second-raters in banks. Banks are gambling with other people's money and that's why their risky activities were so remunerative.
Mary, Leicester, England
Well done to Mr King. Angela Knight and her crew have no qualms asking for tax payers money, while rewarding themselves while presiding over the collapse in banking. If it were any other industry, they'd all just be allowed to go under.
Mac, Barcelona, Spain
So Angela Knight is saying by all means keep on paying the obscene bonuses but keep it quiet. Why is it that a plumber who fails at his job is sacked without a penny while an incompetent banker walks away with loads of loot? Could she kindly explain?
Phil Linehan, Mexico City, Mexico
The public nature of the squabbles is indicative of the effect that these remuneration structures have had on the general public. If the effects of such structures were wholly contained within the banking sector, then the squabbles would be wholly within the banking sector.
Vincent Curry, London,
The bankers have no right to complain when they are bailed out with cheap taxpayer money and subsidies. We need to put some sanity back into finance and grow real wealth, not illusionary paper profit at the expense of the real economy. We should join the Euro and end the rip-off Britain !
Steve Marchant, Broadhempston, UK
There, there, Angela.You may not like it, but they do say the truth always hurts.
Trevor, Southend, UK