Christine Seib
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Barclays faced fresh embarrassment yesterday over its £314 million emergency loan from the Bank of England, when HSBC, its rival, furiously denied that an error by its bankers had forced Barclays into the red.
Meanwhile, it emerged that Britain’s biggest high street banks have more than $120 billion (£60 billion) worth of exposure to the troubled asset-backed commercial paper market.
The banks have suffered a torrid few days, in which HBOS bailed out a $35 billion in-house fund, Barclays became the first bank to call on the Bank of England’s lending facility since the credit crunch and Northern Rock faced speculation that it was about to issue a second profits warning.
Sources at Barclays had blamed its overnight borrowing from the Bank of England on HSBC, saying that the bigger bank had failed to provide a loan, as promised. Barclays would be eligible for compensation from HSBC, the sources said.
Both banks yesterday refused to comment on the spat, but a source at HSBC said: “Any suggestion that there was any kind of failure is absolute nonsense.”
It is thought that Barclays approached HSBC for the loan at 4.15pm, just five minutes before the deadline by which banks must ensure that their accounts with the Bank of England are in the black. It takes about three minutes to transmit an interbank payment, leaving HSBC with too little time to finalise the necessary paperwork to meet the deadline.
A source at Barclays described the request for a loan from HSBC as a “last-gasp attempt” to avoid borrowing from the Bank of England.
The Bank’s standing facility allows banks to borrow money at one percentage point above the base rate. The facility is frequently used to cover short-term shortfalls – loans are usually repaid the following day. However, banks are particularly sensitive about the issue because recent turmoil in credit markets has prompted speculation it may be used due to liquidity problems.
HBOS’s move on Tuesday to suppport Grampian, a type of fund known as a conduit, was seen as a further sign that tightening in the credit markets was biting the high street banks’ ability to raise funding.
Conduits invest in asset-backed securities such as retail and commercial loans. The investments are financed by issuing commercial paper, but demand for asset-backed commercial paper (ABCP) has dried up as problems with US sub-prime mortgages and falling stockmarkets sent nervous investors fleeing.
HBOS said that it would extend credit to Grampian until the fund could borrow more cheaply using ABCP. Grampian is the biggest conduit in Europe, with about $995 million invested in US sub-prime mortgages. Lloyds TSB has a $22.8 billion fund called Cancara, HSBC has $23.2 billion of assets in Solitaire Funding and Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) has $13.85 billion with Thames Asset Global. Barclays has less than $10 billion in conduits.
Sources at Lloyds TSB, HSBC and RBS said yesterday that their conduits were continuing to borrow using ABCP. Analysts at UBS estimate that ABCP provides about 4 per cent of UK banks’ funding.
HBOS and Lloyds TSB’s conduits are larger in comparison to the banks’ market capitalisation than those at HSBC and RBS, but the analysts said that these were “still not worryingly large numbers”.
UBS said: “Whilst pockets of risk will no doubt exist in these portfolios, we remain comfortable at this stage that the current issue is primarily fear and hence liquidity rather than a broad-based credit issue.”
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Let us frisk all those pockets of risk.
Dion Per Sona, Cardiff, UK,
I can confirm that it takes betwen 3 to 5 minutes to transfer funds from one registered bank to another. Swift! From someone involved in setting up the SA workflows for the IT backbone system, in a small Belgium town called Charloi.
Karl, Oslo, Norway
I've now been waiting about 10 minutes to simple log onto my Barclays account online but hay it never works at the bank holidays or the end of the month, when payments need to be paid so how do they expect to transfer £300 odd million in 3 minutes come on Barclays you told me to forward plan.
Did you get any charges for going overdrawn?
andy, petersfield,
Oh how nice to hear of a bank suffering because another bank has allegedly failed to provide a service. If this happened a little more often the banks might realise how a member of the public feels when their bank makes a mistake and refuses to admit it !!
Dr Roy Thurston, Droitwich, UK
Your writer does not seem to understand the working practice of the money markets-these last minute deals are perfectly normal and most of the 500 or so banks in the city will regularly participate-at that stage the deals are expedited and the "paperwork" is secondary-errors ocasionally occur but this situation being fairly normal DOES NOT require headlines nor does it in any way affect the status or good reputeof either bank-please cut out the sensationalism
Jeff Slade, London,
Barclays should know better! It takes 3 to 5 working days just to transfer the money. Thrree minutes - what kind of world do they live in.
Tony Webber, Ramsey, IOM
yes that is weird, i sold a house last week on friday and the money went missing until monday!!!
r duke, chandlers ford, hants
"billion (£60 billion) worth of exposure to the troubled asset-backed commercial paper market" to add some perspective in a market driven by speculaiton - the big five bank collectively made a provifit of £32billion last year.
Joe, London,
Isn't it strange that inter-bank transfer of funds can be accomplished in a matter of minutes, whereas the money I transferred last Thursday "disappeared" until Tuesday when it finally arrived in another bank account.
J Smith, London,
The choice of word conduit seems appropriate.
Not only does the term imply capacity for mega number traffic, but in view of the confusion at some ultimate destinations as to the possible quality of some of the intangible shipped goods, an unintended possible clue might come in some cases from saying the word syllable by syllable.
dr venables preller, Warminster, UK