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Gordon Brown told business leaders today that the best way to keep a long-term lid on UK tax rates is to make sure that the coming economic downturn is as short as possible.
As Alistair Darling, the Chancellor, prepared to announce a fiscal stimulus of up to £20 billion in this afternoon's Pre-Budget Report - including announcing a new top rate of tax of 45 per cent for high-earners - the Prime Minister told business leaders that now was the right time for Government to give the economy a boost.
"Simply letting the recession run its course, to say there is no alternative, is not an option," the Prime Minister told the annual conference of the CBI.
"We have seen in previous recessions how a failure to take action at the start of the downturn has increased both the length and depth of the recession. That was the mistake made in the recessions of the 80s and early 90s. the mistake made by the Japanese and the mistake made in the Asian crisis.
"To fail to act now would be not only a failure of economic policy but a failure of leadership."
That last remark seemed to be aimed squarely at David Cameron's Conservatives, who have argued that increased public borrowing of the scope planned by the Government will just lead to higher taxes down the line. Borrowing is likely to soar to around £70 billion this year and to peak at around £120 billion next year.
But Mr Brown argued that borrowing now and investing in public services means the economy would be in better shape when it starts to emerge from the downturn some time next year. Mr Darling is expected to announce a new 45p income tax rate on those earning more than £150,000 a year - which would have included many of those in the audience this morning at the Hilton Hotel on Park Lane.
"Doing 'too little too late' would mean more damage, more deterioration - the loss of vital businesses - a weaker economy, lower growth, eventually greater fiscal problems and in that event, higher interest rates and higher taxes," the Prime Minister said.
"The best way for taxes to be low in the long-term is for us to ensure that the downturn is as limited in length and scope as possible. And that means help when help is needed, not when it is too late."
The main measure expected in today's Pre-Budget Report, which in a break with tradition has been widely leaked, is an immediate 2.5 percentage point cut in VAT, which will last until the beginning of 2010 and cost about £11 billion.
Mr Darling is also expected to cut income tax by £120 a year for those on the basic rate, announce plans to get banks lending to small companies again and bring forward school and hospital building projects.
The Prime Minister said that he would also be announcing further efficiency savings going beyond the £30 billion of savings already laid out in the Budget.
"For it is a broadly based economic recovery, combined with prudent tax, spending, and asset sale plans over the medium term, that will help us bring the government borrowing back down over the coming years," he said.
As Mr Brown spoke, activists from the environmental group Greenpeace scaled the Bank of England building, calling on the Government to step up investment in "green" industries.
Four campaigners used a ladder to climb on to the building, unfurling a huge banner which read "Green Is Good". Greenpeace said the stunt was designed to emphasise that the fiscal boost should extend to green technologies.
Mr Brown told the CBI that the Government would support investment in low-carbon projects to help ensure that Britain made the most of opportunities in "the environmental revolution". He said that worldwide, the green economy could be worth as much as $3 trillion a year by 2050, employing more than 25 million people. "I want Britain to benefit from these new jobs, with at least 1 million jobs in the green economy by 2030," he said.
In contrast to the Prime Minister’s focus on tax policy, Mr Cameron told the CBI that “monetary activism” - lower interest rates - should be the Government’s main tool to support the economy.
Appearing after Mr Brown, the Tory leader noted that the Bank of England’s Monetary Policy Committee considered a two-point in the base rate earlier this month, but scaled it back to 1.5 points because of an expectation of a fiscal stimulus in the Pre-Budget Report.
“We have consistently argued that Government must not do anything to make further interest rate cuts less likely,” he said.
Mr Cameron told the conference: “The CBI and the Conservative Party are agreed that monetary activism - lower interest rates and getting credit flowing again - is our top priority.
“As your director-general said last week, getting the credit markets working properly is much more important than the fiscal boost.”
He also accused Mr Brown of “misrepresenting” his position as one of inaction. “This is not walking on by,” he insisted. “This is offering sensible, practical and costed help for businesses and families through this difficult time.”
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I think everyone is missing the point: the one overall factor that will continually undermine confidence in the economy is everyday news of job losses and rising unemployment. Oh and when you borrow more money aren't supposed to pay it back before you start spending more money?
Jack Maz, Woodford, London, UK
The Tories wll never learn they are the party of mass unemloyment .Remember the 80s,PollTax etc::Thatcher could not have handled a lobal crisis of this scale she was only as good as lucky in the opposition circumstances .However Winbag Cameron and boy George are miles off the point.Gordon is he man.
denis regan, cardiff, wales
UK is for sale!! Starting Bid: £1 Trillion
Uma Shankar, UK,
Once again this "government" is showing it's incompetence and shortsightedness by finding short term ineffective solutions to BIG problems. This government are a complete bunch of clowns, except they're not very funny at all!!
Simon jordan, Rye, England
"For it is a broadly based economic recovery, combined with prudent tax, spending, and asset sale plans over the medium term" he [Brown] said.
Asset sale plans? What assets? Please tell me Brown's not eyeing up the gold again.
When it all hits the fan, i hope Nulab haven't secured another term
Steve, Leeds, UK
Mr Brown keeps pointing out that the recession was created entirely in the US. I'm so glad no British banks approved inflated loans at low interest rates for amounts above the real value of homes to people who couldn't afford to pay them back. Because that would have been terrible.
Chris, Farnham,
The really frightening thing is that Brown couldn't see that the ever increasing levels of debt and house price inflation he let happen were unsustainable, and that it was inevitable that we'd end up where we are now. I stupidly hoped1997 was the end of Labour's usual tax, borrow and spend policies.
John , Manchester,
An obscene government peddling an obscene brand of social envy, sole purpose being to get re-elected. 'Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely' - Lord Acton. Brown, Darling and McFall should go home and at least allow us to clean up our mess, which of course they created.
Larry, Sunningdale, England
gordon browns,invited private equity companies into britain too buy up british companies and he only taxed them 18% and that is when these private equity companies or better known as non doms sold their company on,so brown saying he his going to tax big earners more,its just a election gimmick.
thomas, wallasey, uk
Brown is out of touch with reality. At best, his tinkering will have only a marginal effect on the length or depth of the UK recession. The National Debt is set to double to around £70,000 per household within 5 years and Brown's irresponsible borrowing will have to be repaid by generations to come.
Melchet, Edinburgh, UK
Gordon brown is now a yes man, tax cuts now to ensure another 4 years, a full 4 years at no. 10. The majority of the uk will see it in good light, and re- elect him!
After all, we know how good a leader he is. After all he was our "wise chancellor" who sold our gold when prices were worthless!
Lee, Hazel Grove, Recession kingdom
Rex Lester,
you clearly have no sense of how this country operates its tax system. you are taxed in bands so only everything you earn over 150,000 is taxed at 45%
Alex, London, England
Absolute nonsense and utterly divorced from the real world of commerce - a marginal reduction in prices of primarily non-essential goods which will be entirely lost in the huge administration burden on businesses and accountants. Stupid even by Gordon Brown's standards
Benjamin, Gloucester,
I think all your comments are wide off the mark and you are living in gaaga land .the realiy is this is a global crisis and we should be patriotic,Camerons answer is a windbag reaction not a leaders.Tories never remember do all they think is unemployment is an answer to pay,think!
denis regan, harbin, china
i think this show's how little the goverment knows about living on the bread line when you have no money to spend a cut in the vat is not going to help you spend when you got no money.
steve leach, andover, england
Normal service from the left wing. Tax the wealth creators (many of whom might chose to spend more time with there families as a rate of 45% means that the state will keep more of their pay than they do once National Insurance Tax is added) pile up a defict and leave it to the next lot to sort out!
Simon , London, UK
Most of the damage to our economy was done
last year as banks borrowed international money
well above our base rate...........
Our economy will contract back to a more
realistic size. I'm sure Brown knows all
that can be done,.. is to soften the impact.
M . Walker, Nr. Bromsgrove, Worcs.
Labour is a busted flush.
These acts to stimulate the economy are marginal.
2% off taxed goods? Increased tax rates for people capable of using tax shelters? A tax rebate that will be used to save or pay off debts rather than spend?
Its like using a peashooter to bring down a charging elephant.
Geoff Miller, Brittany,, France
Anything is better than just leaving it as it is. I just hope it works because if it doesen't we'll end up having the Tories re-elected, and that would be a complete and utter disaster.
tony, Manchester, UK
Hilary, it's even worse than that, it is a reduction of £2.50 on every £117.50 spent. £100 plus VAT. I imagine that most retailers will use this to increase their margins, much as the banks did with the reduction in base rates.
David Leslie, Perth, Scotland
World markets have given their opinion of Brown's policy for overcoming the economic crisis. The pound has plunged yet again at mid-day by another 1% and still falling.
Richard, Alicante, Spain
If I was a retailer making lower margins this year, I would not pass the reduction on to customers. I cannot be compelled to do so.
The pound shop won't become the 97.87p shop will it!
MS, West Cumbria, UK
Surely the long term affect will be to further categorise the inward trend to overcapitalise on ependiture
james, leicester, uk
S Barnes - The best and most sensible comment that has been made all year, in any publication.
Spot on..
David, London, uk
So who thinks that every single retailer out there is going to reduce their prices automatically for the VAT reduction? Absolutely no way will this happen - it's a logistical nightmare. The retailers will be the only ones to profit, it will be a fiasco to rival decimalisation!
Steve, London, UK
If you look at all the graphs and stats in 1997 then you will see it was all heading in a good direction. If he had left the it all alone he would be the most sucessfull chancellor ever.
he didnt and we are all in the soup.
Doing nothing is a real viable option.
jluisada, birmingham, UK
Isn't it lovely to see how happy Gordon is? Makes one feel the recession is the answer to his prayers!
Mel, Warminster, U.K.
Mr Brown seems intent on blaming the Americans for OUR banking crisis. Let's get one thing clear, the Americans did not tell British banks to fuel the house price boom by lending irresponsibly, Mr Brown you did it, you took the credit in the good times, now be a man an accept the blame when it's bad
Steve, London, UK
"To fail to act now would be not only a failure of economic policy but a failure of leadership." The astonishing thing is that his smugness suggests that he truly fails to see the connection between the mess we're in and his leadership failures. His arrogance is astonishing.
Nick, Rotherham, UK
Hooray for Muppet Gordon. Give people loads a money. What makes him think they will behave differently to the Banks who he has thrown billions at. They are hoarding their cash, so we will follow their example. Shops have reduced prices by 25%, if that doesn't get us to spend 2.5% has no chance.
alan, Carlisle, uk
S Barnes - whether or not one agrees with you that 'High earners should... share the bad' times - on the basis that the top 1% pays 23% of taxes already, any tax hikes may simply mean that the high earners shuffle off to less punitively taxed locations, meaning that we lose out on all their money
pr, South Woodford, UK
What the hell is wrong with this government? As S Barnes' post has pointed out - recession gives us a great opportunity to think about what got us here in the first place, and change our strategy.
The problem is, Brown will hit us all with higher taxes soon. This 45% is a naive decoy.
Laura Roberts, London, UK
"Mr Darling is also expected to announce plans to get banks lending to small companies again".
Shoudn't that have been one of the "strings attached" to the bank bail-out in the first place? Yet another enormous blunder.
Duncan, Bristol, UK
Who is going to be inspired to purchase goods by only a 2.5% reduction on VAT? £2.50 saving on a £100 spend!! Inspired yet?? This came about by gov inspired culture of spend and borrow, the gov is using same formula in a recession. We Just have to wait for the country to be repossessed now!!
Hilary, glasgow,
There is nothing wrong with recession. A recession provides a moment of sanity in a disturbingly basic financial system. With any luck Mr. Browns efforts will ensure that it doesn't affect the public at large. High earners share the good times and they should share the bad - I have no complaints
S Barnes, London, England
Surely Prudence Brown headline should "Tax cut now means lower public spending which in turn means lower taxes later."
As the architect of a bloated government which has not been able to keep within spending limits, people have stopped listening to him!
steve tea, manchester, cheshire
No no no no no
We got into this mess by overspending and borrowing and a short term economic view.
Now this imbecile thinks the answer is more overspending, borrowing and an even shorter term view.
The economy and the markets collapsed for a reason. That reason is still there. Engage brains!
Laura Roberts, London, UK
err doesn't that amount to, if I spend every penny I've got I'll be richer?-not quite sure I follow the logic there
peter c, Devizes, Wessex
The VAT reduction is another Brown inspired fiasco. Overcomplicated by far.
Why not ABOLISH SOMETHING?
Abolish NHI payments for employer and employee is a good way to go. Everyone in work sees an immediate benefit, close the government department and redeploy the staff.
Dave Clemo, Kettering,
I wonder if the Government will increase the tax on bonus payments as well? If not some may take a pay cut to below 150K with the balance paid as a bonus at only 40%
Rex Lester, Surbiton, UK
If the economy isn't helped now the recession will be longer and deeper. This will result in Government spending more in benefits and receive less in taxes as the recession hits. By boasting it now, it will save us loads down the line.Think of all those business's going bust? Tories talking nonsense
Gabe Martin, Blandford, England
What is Mr Brown doing to stimulate manufacturing/wealth creating business in the UK. The (financial) service economy is gone, utilities have been sold so what else is there? It seems fairly futile to provide incentives to spend if the employment base has been flushed down the toilet by Mr Brown.
Ian McDonald, Auckland, New Zealand
Hmm, smart move, NOT! Now all the rich people who incidentally employ LOTS of people will take their cash and their jobs too elsewhere but I suppose it doesn't matter if unemployment figures go up as you can always cover them up by claiming they're "incapacitated" instead. Yet ANOTHER VERY dumb move
Anthony , London, England
Brown is a disgrace - his only mantra is spend spend spend. The UK public have over borrowed, now he is going to raise taxes and borrow billions to try and get us spending ever more. It will all need paying back but he hopes we are all to stupid to relaise until he is re-relected.
TC, London, UK
The sad fact is that had the prime minister recognised earlier that there was an impending recession and taken action sooner then the consequences for UK would have been less severe. It is his failure to face reality that has led to the disaster now overtaking us.
A.Williams, Cradley Heath,
And exactly how does Gordon suggest we measure the effects of his stimulus package? By the height of the wave when the tsunami hits fully? How high would it have been anyway? Impure politics from a deceitful politician.
Let's be clear
Who got us here!
Paul Freeman, London, England