Gerard Baker: American View
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Here is a consoling thought, as you ponder the implications of the first government takeover of a British bank in a quarter of a century. It must be a measure of a sort of progress that nationalisation by a Labour government is regarded today as an excruciating embarrassment, something to be resisted at all costs.
Younger readers may not know this, but it wasn't ever thus. Back in the 1960s and 1970s, nationalisation to Labour was like communion to a regular churchgoer: a public affirmation of the faith as well as a source of vital spiritual nourishment.
Now, it is a mark of shame. It is all done under cover, hugger-mugger, backs against the wall, an air of humiliation about the place. It is a miserable little deal cobbled together in the quiet of a Sunday afternoon, accompanied by loud assurances that it will be temporary and perhaps even profitable.
I am not normally one to defend the Brown-Darling economic management record, but I am viewing these events from Washington, where economic competence is hardly in oversupply these days. And I am always suspicious of a pile-on, especially when it is done by opposition politicians seeking to make capital.
I worked for the Bank of England during the previous nationalisation of a British bank. In 1984 the central bank acquired Johnson Matthey Bankers, the banking arm of the famous gold trader, for a pound after it had failed to get a consortium of clearing banks to take it over. (There was some amusement on the day of the deal, when the Governor tried to hand over a pound note to JMB's people but was told by the lawyers that it was only a promissory note and that it would be better if he had some real metal. He duly fished two 50p pieces out of his pocket.)
That occupation of a small but not insignificant part of the commanding heights of the economy was carried out when that famously Marxist duo, Margaret Thatcher and Nigel Lawson, were in charge of the nation's economy.
So we should remember that just because something is necessary does not mean that it is desirable, nor that it represents some hidden ideological agenda that could weaken Britain's standing as a dynamic capital market.
Competence, however, is a different thing. Is it reasonable to fear that the latest episode has hurt London in the eyes of the world?
I suspect that most people with an interest believe that the nationalisation of Northern Rock was the only plausible remaining choice, given the errors of the past few months. It represents a kind of inversion of Winston Churchill's line about Americans - the Government managed to do the wrong thing in the end, but only because it had exhausted every possibility of getting it right.
But something had to be done. And it is not entirely fair to suggest that the UK has been uniquely hurt by the financial crisis of the past year because of some misjudgments by the authorities.
The inescapable fact is that, though it once seemed to be principally a liquidity issue, the sub-prime mess has ripped very large chunks out of the capital of the global banking system. This could have been avoided - and probably should have been - but for the time being the question is how do you plug those holes without producing the sort of systemic, escalating collapse that financial systems are prone to?
No major country - not Britain, the United States, nor any in Europe - has been able to fill the gap with purely private sector financing. So public money has had to do the job. Over here in the US, the chosen solution seems to be the financial comfort of strangers.
Merrill Lynch, one of the grandest names on Wall Street, is now part-owned by the Government of Singapore. Citigroup, America's largest bank, now counts as its largest shareholder the Abu Dhabi Government's investment arm. Morgan Stanley, the blue-chip investment bank and now provider of much of Tony Blair's income, recently sold a 10 per cent stake in itself to the Chinese Government. The list is not confined to Wall Street, either - UBS has taken the same route down the global path.
The evidence so far is that these sovereign wealth funds are behaving merely as passive investors. They insist that they have no interest in managing these companies, nor in using their stakes for any purpose other than maximising financial returns.
If you are going to end up with a government bailout of some of your biggest banks, a lot of people would think it better to have your own government do it. But what will it portend for us if events prove that we might actually be better off in the hands of foreigners than in the grip of our own governments?
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jan, manchester, UK
"Now WE, the tax paying public own the bank. It's simple, if you default on a loan, the lender takes your assets."
Sadly, Northern Rock has debts of at least £100billion, the government refuses to say just how big they could be, but considering £10billion was found in Granite, they could be vast.
Its assets are likely little more than junk.
At best, it has 80% of its assets secured on houses, houses that are currently falling in value, heavily.
If NR was a bargin, why didnt anyone but the UK government want to put in an offer?
Dominic, Manchester, UK
So let me see if I understand this. Northern Rock is a bargain for the taxpayer because only Branson "a crook like all other business men" was willing to bid on it? No-one else was willing to bid for this "bargain"? And that's why we are happy to end up owning it?
Would you buy a second-hand car from someone who had no other offers, after three months of trying?
Oh, and Northern Rock "could" make a profit? In a business environment when other banks are declaring losses of billions? Well, if Northern Rock is capable of making profits when others are making losses, just why did it get into trouble in the first place?
jon livesey, Sunnyvale, CA/USA
Virgin were after making a fast billion bucks, that's why they were turned down, I wouldn't trust Branson in a million years. He is a businessman - that means he is a crook like all other business men.
It would be nice to see a recovery and end up in profit - it could happen.
m wilson, bidache, france
I worked in the coal industry for many years. The Government nationalised it because it was run inefficiently by the private sector - not as an act of faith as your young correspondent sems to think - but rather out of economic necessity.
Remember when the Northern Rock used to be a building society with a business vested in real assets? Well once again, the private sector has failed and I fail to see why the Government is blamed for economic incompetence when it is the result of the get-rich-quick paradigm which dominates our economy.
Richard, Bakewell, Derbyshire
Now WE, the tax paying public own the bank. It's simple, if you default on a loan, the lender takes your assets. Northern Rock would have defaulted to the tune of £25 Billion of taxpayer money and as a result, it was seized, and rightly so. It's not £100 billion of liability we've taken over, it's £100 billion of assets that Virgin wanted to take at a bargain price, all at the expense of the real stakeholders, the tax paying public.
I for one am thankful that our government has done something that is in our interest for once.
jan, manchester, UK
COMPETENCE
Maybe you stop at least one, perhaps two, stages below what matters in this regard. It seems to me that far more important than how Brown/Darling's competence is seen in the eyes of the world are:-
(a) How good they actually are. How close to optimal is the current combination of structure and personnel that is making our national decisions?
and
(b) How good is our democratic process at providing us with leaders who are competent enough to make optimal decisions? And is our decision-making structure well enough constructed to permit such optimal decisions to become reality.
Maybe the competence, or lack of it, in our leadership is something that can only effectively be addressed by looking at how it is that these particular people are put in power, and how possible it is for even the most competent to set optimal policy in motion.
Simon Stephenson, Windermere, UK
As it was so adeptly put last night on Channel 4, banks privatise their profits and socialise their losses. No doubt the electorate will long remember their involuntary participation in
the acquisition of Northern Rock, and pray nothing similar is waiting the wings
Terry Hawker, L'Absie, France
Is it really?
If it was such an embarrisment, why not let the bank fall?
It happens.
If its a viable business simply lacking short terms funds, it'd be sold on by the liquidators, if it had more serious problems, they would break it up and sell it off in pieces.
The government either knew that was not possible and didnt want to admit it, and so threw away more money than the NHS manages to gobble every year, or saw a chance to nationalise a business and took it.
Now, when Paragon falls in a year, the precendent is set, onto the government books it goes, and the next, and the next, and the next.
Dominic, Manchester, UK
I think you'll find it's JP Morgan who are paying Cherie's hairdressing bill.
Peter, Essex, England
I think your analysis is wrong. Banks are in trouble because they lent too freely. They, and not taxpayers, should have to bear the consequences. It is painful, but the mess is cleared up much more quickly that way.
Paul Flynn, Hong Kong, Hong Kong
I don't disagree with the analysis, but I'm left with the thought that if Northern Rock is such a solid asset, someone ought to have stepped forward to buy it. Instead, they stepped forward only to try to use Northern Rock as an excuse to obtain a taxpayer subsidy.
So now the Government, having used the taxpayer as the lender of last resort, and having run out of other options, uses the taxpayer again as buyer of last resort.
Why? Why does no private entity see value in Northern Rock, when Darling tells us that the value is there?
This is like an auction house buying in a painting no-one will bid on, and then claiming they got a bargain.
jon livesey, Sunnyvale, CA/USA