James Harding, Business Editor
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In a wood-panelled private dining room in Knightsbridge, a dozen refined Swedish men gathered for dinner earlier this week. They all live in London and, for the first half of the evening, they spoke in barely accented English about the business environment in Britain. The conversation was high-brow, if a little bloodless.
Then the former chairman of a landmark British business raised the subject of nondoms. The polite salon atmosphere evaporated. Everyone around the table, it turned out, was a non-domiciled resident of the UK. Each of them was appalled by the current proposals to impose new taxes on non-doms. And half the people there said they were considering leaving the UK before the new nondoms taxes come into force next April. One described himself as having “fled” the tax regime in his native Sweden. Another described himself as having found “financial asylum” in this country.
Another explained, a little more soberly, that the Government’s planned levy of £30,000 on each nondom is more of a disincentive to live in the UK than it first seems: a non-dom couple, for example, would have to pay £60,000 extra per year, which is the equivalent of being taxed on the annual income gained on a cautiously invested £4 million.
It is all very well to focus on the likes of Roman Abramovich and Lakshmi Mittal when talking about non-doms. No doubt the new levy is petty cash to billionaires. But for the average, cosmopolitan millionaire - the forgotten middle class of the non-dom world – the new levy is a meaningful sum. It also constitutes a worrying change in the nondom tax rules that many fear will be just the beginning of a gradual increase in taxation on foreigners in Britain.
The fuming Swedes around the dinner table said that they all already paid tax on their UK income – the current non-dom rules tax foreign citizens based in the UK on what they earn here but do not tax international earnings and capital.
They warned, therefore, that the Treasury is in danger of losing out on hundreds of millions of pounds, maybe more, in non-dom revenue. More important still, a raft of talent will drift out of the country.
George Osborne’s idea of all but abolishing inheritance tax and paying for it by taxing non-doms has been widely applauded. No wonder. Who is going to boo a proposal that cuts the tax bill for British voters and places the burden on the shoulders of a bunch of unknown, wealthy foreigners? A week later Alistair Darling’s proposals to scrap taper relief on capital gains tax has stirred up the fury of small business but the plan to tax nondoms met with barely any public resistance.
The problem is that, as things stand, it is impossible to know whether or not the Swedes around the dinner table in Knightsbridge were just engaged in special pleading or sounding a genuine alarm. That is because the Government has gathered scant information about nondoms. Worse, the data that it has collected has been made public in a patchy and unhelpful way.
A serious change in the treatment of a small but important sector of society is under way. Its impact needs to be carefully considered and debated in view of the facts. The Government’s first task should be to collect and publish them.
The tax code needs to be fair and seen to be fair. At the same time, it helps no one if it depresses consumption, drives away wealth creation and damages the economy. Non-doms are unlikely to be a popular cause but they sorely deserve a public hearing.
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Who can afford to pay £30 000 a year just for the privilege to live in the UK? My husband is a non-domiciled UK citizen. We most certainly cannot afford to stay, we have to move. For us this means that we have to leave our children and grandchildren behind, pack up our house and move abroad. It also means that my husband will be loosing a place he called home for the second time in his life. He came here in the 70th as a refugee.
We know of at least 10 more couples who are in the same situation most of them are now packing and leaving. After all I have seen and heard on the subject at least halve of the 119 000 people who are non domiciled will have no choice and leave, if not more. The looser will be the UK economy because I will be doing my shopping in another country as will 3 other couples living on the same street we do.
Gina , Cobham, Surrey
This is an example of yet another 'good idea' that was rushed through by this stumblebum government without considering the effects of the law of unintended consequences.
Joe, Hampshire, UK
This is Brown acting in haste to shoot te Tory fox as they say.
Panic may be a more suitable word
Charles, Lady lake, Florida USA
Wall Street is only here because it is cheaper for US companies to layoff foriegn workers in the UK than workers on Wall Street.
Besides someone can get a big fat bonus saying it was all a mistake and putting into place a return to Wall Street,,, and the chap who bought them to the UK in the first place can get his bonus for doing a big transaction in pounds sterling that appreciated
By now the offices should be ready from the redevelopements after 9/11 so Wall Street can move back to new offices with cheaper negociated rents in NY, paid in cheap dollars
Its not personal - Its just business
Nicholas Iles, Oswestry, Shropshire
"They should also think of the effect on house values if foreign investors stop buying homes here and instead start to sell-up and leave. " John Fitzgerald, London, UK
Cause for celebration for priced-out Londoners.
PT, Tynemouth, UK
Taxing non-doms as the Government propose will kill the golden goose--reverse at a stroke the massive influx of money and talent from Wall Street.
Britain already taxes non-doms on the basis of REMITTANCE of foreign income. Except for the tax treaties such as that with the USA (recently renegotiated) foreign pension accretions will be taxed. Many will find themselves taxed in two countries without relief (think of France and Switzerland with their wealth taxes, not able to be offset against UK income tax).
Another misstep is counting both arrival and departure days: those who now spend a day or two a week in Britain will hesitate to do so for fear of exceeding 91 days a year. The implications are worse than most appreciate: a UK residence held in foreign trust or entity will now be taxed on the basis of "rental value"; there are also "shadow director" implications.
This is a poorly thought-out budget, and I doubt it can be enacted as planned.
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Punktlich, Lausanne, Switzerland
They should pay the 30K
roger , toronto , canada
Foreigners living in London do so mainly by choice. I do. The tax regime has been an important part of that choice. If the government decides to penalise us we will simply leave. I am already considering it very actively. British taxpayers may say "so what?" I suggest they stop to think about the economic impact of damaging London's position as a global crossroads. They should also think of the effect on house values if foreign investors stop buying homes here and instead start to sell-up and leave.
I am appalled at the new regime and am already discussing what to do with my family and advisers, very likely head for somewhere warmer and sunnier with more respect for internationally mobile talent and capital.
John Fitzgerald, London, UK
There is another side to the non-dom debate which is little mentioned, and that is the case of natural born britons who have expatriated themselves for their entire lives, and yet remain vulnerable to having part of their life's work confiscated when they die, by an avaricious State that has at the same time disenfranchised them.
Give us back our vote, and then we can talk about taxation of genuine non-doms.
Michael, Cairo,
Of course they should be paying tax. As an expat living in the USA I had to pay tax on my world-wide income but that certainly doesn't deter myriad foreigners from wanting to live there. Billionaires like Abramovitch should be paying at least a few million a year - if they don't like it, then go somewhere else like the Third World.
Delilah, London,
There are plenty of developed countries in the world which cut a tax deal with foreign nationals, be it officially or unofficially. Switzerland, France, Canada and even the USA to an extent. New Zeland has gone out of its way, in modern times, to turn itself into a tax haven for foreign money which makes it a bit steep for a Kiwi to be stroppy about the issue.
It is hard to see that there is much to keep many of the internationally mobile talent of the world in London for much longer. They are certainly not here for the quality of travel, the education of the local workforce, the affordable housing or cheap restaurants.
Londoner, London,
Simple solution - offshore banking in Jersey will allow the UK non-doms the vehicle to place their international funds in a safe haven.
allycat, St Helier, Jersey
They're welcome here in the Far East - the tax regimes in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, China, even Malaysia and Thailand are all much more welcoming than in the West! Many regimes here do not tax overseas earnings and the culture here would find to do so an egregious invasion of private life by governments. If the UK and other Western governments continue to extort money from the few to pay for government "services" for the many (who produce little), then one day the public will wake up to find themselves washing each others' laundry...for pennies....
Chris. Fulker, Nantou, Taiwan, R.O.C.
So where exactly is this nondom paradise that these Swedes intend to decamp to? If taxing the foreign income of nondoms is such a bad idea, why does every other country do it? I expect, on reflection, that these Swedes will find that life in the UK remains attractive, especially after having put all that work into learning English.
Eric Murray, Auckland,