I think that people are jumping to conclusions a little too soon here. The whole point of waiting until so late in the year to release iPhone was to capitalise on christmas sales; I wonder how many 10s of thousands are going to wait up to an iPhone from santa this year...
And what an amazing christmas present an iPhone will make. You can talk about the blackberry and all those other phones out there that match the functionality of the iPhone all you want, but, I am someone who has used them and they don't come close to the iPhone for ease of use.
Apple do things right. This is a revolutionary device. Truth be told, I don't care about sales figures -- in a way the more iPhone users there are in the UK, the more likely I am to be exploited or neglected by O2 and iPhone (I've been at the sharp end of that sort of thing before). Have a look here if you are unfamiliar with the iPhone http://www.appleofyouriphone.co.uk/iphone-revolution.htm
then come back and tell us you agree!
Gordon Connelly, Glasgow,
If the iPhone is as great as users claim then why is it not selling millions and millions? In the UK O2 will not say what the sales are because they are not that impressive. People do have the ability to judge value for money and the iPhone is too expensive. I have used the iPhone and many other touch screen devices. The iPhone is fine but it is not revolutionary and is actually more difficult to use for quick one handed access then cheaper phones. Also I really cannot believe people think you can use the iPhone over EDGE for web browsing - its so slow. And why would you give-up push email of a Black Berry for the low tech email of the iPhone - well unless you did not actually use email on the Black Berry. So much mis-information from so many people....
B Shah, London,
I have nothing against apple, well maybe the single click button, but its not a complete bed of roses - Macbooks have many of the same issues or 'kwerks' as PC's, slow running for no apparent reason (.kext issues), network drop outs, ability not to connect to different brands of wifi. I have to carry both a PC and Mac, because often when I arrive I can't connect with the 'draft n' adapter in my macbook to the likes of Zyxel,Dlink
Wireless Routers and no I can't change the clients choice of router.
I've just got myself a PAYG Mobile and an Asus EEE, for about the same money for mobile work and I wouldn't give it up for two iphones - even if you pay the £35 month for 18 months! I think the iphone with its 2G connectivity is conservative inclusion by Apple, rather than an innovation, but understand the concerns on the power drain of the 3G Chipset.
The only probem with the ASUS eeePC is hasn't got the marketing budget of Apple - and doesn't get reported by the likes of timesonline.
A Jones, UK, UK
So you pay £270 for the iPhone and an additional £180 over the next 18 months if you take the minimum O2 tariff they force you to take. The £35 a month tariff is actually O2's £25 a month tariff. So your iPhone will ultimately cost you £450. Sounds fair. I am surprised Apple has been allowed to do this. Did they not whinge and moan at Microsoft when they were bundling Internet Explorer and Media Player with their Windows OS, saying it did not allow healthy competition or something along those lines. I have used O2 a number of times and their service is terrible. So although I love the iPhone, I shall not be forced to use O2's poor service and pay over the odds for it. I understand O2 have the exclusive deal with Apple for 5 years so I guess I'll never own one. lol
Paul Prendergast, London,
yaaaaawn! so dull, so what? its only a phone, only a fool would pay £270 for a huge phone and huge contract. So what its apple? There are loads of excellent phones on the market for free! Lets face it, you only bought one because of the hype surrounding it. Remember the spice girls? boom and bust! (excuse the pun)
LB, Aberdeen, Scotland
iPhone fantastic device
O2 deal - pants
I would pay £250 for a sim free iPhone from Apple.
Have no need for a long term contract from O2.
So until unlocked iPhones are sold by Apple, count me out.
Lets see how much they cost when sold legally unlocked from France?
unklerupert, Birmingham,
Its fair to say the phone expensive and fair to say you dont like all things apple you may only say this however if you own anything apple. Having changed our home network totally to apple in the last year(all 4 computers) we now know why people bought this stuff yes its expensive Dell has better PC specs but it never crashes runs 24/7 without complaint. They do thing that people can use rather than overcomplicated devices from HP or Sony having tried out the iphone its worth the money
Aplle Rules
Simon, newcastle,
ah, but what many people seem to miss is that the iPhone's importance goes far beyond its' raw technology - so many groups are making great technological advancements so that it is quite common but very very few are successful at taking that raw technology and making it useable and productive - this is where Apple excells. Most technology companies understand their technology but Apple understands both the technology and how people function with it. At our office, we use Blackberry phones, with many great capabilities but the interface is so very poorly done, and access to the functions is so heavily nested that it cripples the phone and makes it useless. After using a friends iPhone, I really have the urge to throw my Blackberry off a high bridge.
Gary, Fort Worth, USA
Martin and Dave,
Obviously 2 guys who do not own an iPhone. What is it that makes a guy who doesnt own one or hasnt used one feel so compelled to give an opinion that is negative.
Gentleman, please give us the same opportunity...post pics of your wifes/girlfriends so that we may judge them without having used them also.
Pope, Farmington Hills,
Martin Bentley - what are you talking about? Have you used the iPhone or iPod Touch? Do you know anything about the iPod range over the past x amount of years?
I assume not, so let me fill you in. Apple iPods, just like Apple 'Laptops', have traditionally been expensive pieces of kit that do less than their competitors do. There, i've said it. I agree with you. There are technically better products available for less.
Always have been though.
So why do they sell so well? Why are they classed as 'groundbreaking' devices?
The short answer is that they are incredibly intuitive and easy to use. And if you use any of the new Touch range of products, you'll find them better than any Nokia or Samsung or LG product. Browsing the internet is amazing on a Touch. I've never said that about any other mobile product. So that's why Apple are confident it'll do well. And I truly believe it will.
Dan E, London,
I love Apple Mac, great products, until now. The iPhone specifications are so far behind what has been on the market for a year or so it's somewhat embarressing. I'm hoping it doesn't harm the reputation of Macbook, iPod etc which are all great well designed products which also have great performance and specification. The iPhone on the other hand although stylish and with a good interface just doesn't match the performance I've come to associate with Mac.
When Windows Vista was so blatantly floundering it would have been much more intelligent for Apple to have pushed their excellent range of Laptops instead.
Martin Bentley, Bristol, UK
I think that people are jumping to conclusions a little too soon here. The whole point of waiting until so late in the year to release iPhone was to capitalise on christmas sales; I wonder how many 10s of thousands are going to wait up to an iPhone from santa this year...
And what an amazing christmas present an iPhone will make. You can talk about the blackberry and all those other phones out there that match the functionality of the iPhone all you want, but, I am someone who has used them and they don't come close to the iPhone for ease of use.
Apple do things right. This is a revolutionary device. Truth be told, I don't care about sales figures -- in a way the more iPhone users there are in the UK, the more likely I am to be exploited or neglected by O2 and iPhone (I've been at the sharp end of that sort of thing before). Have a look here if you are unfamiliar with the iPhone http://www.appleofyouriphone.co.uk/iphone-revolution.htm
then come back and tell us you agree!
Gordon Connelly, Glasgow,
If the iPhone is as great as users claim then why is it not selling millions and millions? In the UK O2 will not say what the sales are because they are not that impressive. People do have the ability to judge value for money and the iPhone is too expensive. I have used the iPhone and many other touch screen devices. The iPhone is fine but it is not revolutionary and is actually more difficult to use for quick one handed access then cheaper phones. Also I really cannot believe people think you can use the iPhone over EDGE for web browsing - its so slow. And why would you give-up push email of a Black Berry for the low tech email of the iPhone - well unless you did not actually use email on the Black Berry. So much mis-information from so many people....
B Shah, London,
I have nothing against apple, well maybe the single click button, but its not a complete bed of roses - Macbooks have many of the same issues or 'kwerks' as PC's, slow running for no apparent reason (.kext issues), network drop outs, ability not to connect to different brands of wifi. I have to carry both a PC and Mac, because often when I arrive I can't connect with the 'draft n' adapter in my macbook to the likes of Zyxel,Dlink
Wireless Routers and no I can't change the clients choice of router.
I've just got myself a PAYG Mobile and an Asus EEE, for about the same money for mobile work and I wouldn't give it up for two iphones - even if you pay the £35 month for 18 months! I think the iphone with its 2G connectivity is conservative inclusion by Apple, rather than an innovation, but understand the concerns on the power drain of the 3G Chipset.
The only probem with the ASUS eeePC is hasn't got the marketing budget of Apple - and doesn't get reported by the likes of timesonline.
A Jones, UK, UK
So you pay £270 for the iPhone and an additional £180 over the next 18 months if you take the minimum O2 tariff they force you to take. The £35 a month tariff is actually O2's £25 a month tariff. So your iPhone will ultimately cost you £450. Sounds fair. I am surprised Apple has been allowed to do this. Did they not whinge and moan at Microsoft when they were bundling Internet Explorer and Media Player with their Windows OS, saying it did not allow healthy competition or something along those lines. I have used O2 a number of times and their service is terrible. So although I love the iPhone, I shall not be forced to use O2's poor service and pay over the odds for it. I understand O2 have the exclusive deal with Apple for 5 years so I guess I'll never own one. lol
Paul Prendergast, London,
yaaaaawn! so dull, so what? its only a phone, only a fool would pay £270 for a huge phone and huge contract. So what its apple? There are loads of excellent phones on the market for free! Lets face it, you only bought one because of the hype surrounding it. Remember the spice girls? boom and bust! (excuse the pun)
LB, Aberdeen, Scotland
iPhone fantastic device
O2 deal - pants
I would pay £250 for a sim free iPhone from Apple.
Have no need for a long term contract from O2.
So until unlocked iPhones are sold by Apple, count me out.
Lets see how much they cost when sold legally unlocked from France?
unklerupert, Birmingham,
Its fair to say the phone expensive and fair to say you dont like all things apple you may only say this however if you own anything apple. Having changed our home network totally to apple in the last year(all 4 computers) we now know why people bought this stuff yes its expensive Dell has better PC specs but it never crashes runs 24/7 without complaint. They do thing that people can use rather than overcomplicated devices from HP or Sony having tried out the iphone its worth the money
Aplle Rules
Simon, newcastle,
ah, but what many people seem to miss is that the iPhone's importance goes far beyond its' raw technology - so many groups are making great technological advancements so that it is quite common but very very few are successful at taking that raw technology and making it useable and productive - this is where Apple excells. Most technology companies understand their technology but Apple understands both the technology and how people function with it. At our office, we use Blackberry phones, with many great capabilities but the interface is so very poorly done, and access to the functions is so heavily nested that it cripples the phone and makes it useless. After using a friends iPhone, I really have the urge to throw my Blackberry off a high bridge.
Gary, Fort Worth, USA
Martin and Dave,
Obviously 2 guys who do not own an iPhone. What is it that makes a guy who doesnt own one or hasnt used one feel so compelled to give an opinion that is negative.
Gentleman, please give us the same opportunity...post pics of your wifes/girlfriends so that we may judge them without having used them also.
Pope, Farmington Hills,
Martin Bentley - what are you talking about? Have you used the iPhone or iPod Touch? Do you know anything about the iPod range over the past x amount of years?
I assume not, so let me fill you in. Apple iPods, just like Apple 'Laptops', have traditionally been expensive pieces of kit that do less than their competitors do. There, i've said it. I agree with you. There are technically better products available for less.
Always have been though.
So why do they sell so well? Why are they classed as 'groundbreaking' devices?
The short answer is that they are incredibly intuitive and easy to use. And if you use any of the new Touch range of products, you'll find them better than any Nokia or Samsung or LG product. Browsing the internet is amazing on a Touch. I've never said that about any other mobile product. So that's why Apple are confident it'll do well. And I truly believe it will.
Dan E, London,
I love Apple Mac, great products, until now. The iPhone specifications are so far behind what has been on the market for a year or so it's somewhat embarressing. I'm hoping it doesn't harm the reputation of Macbook, iPod etc which are all great well designed products which also have great performance and specification. The iPhone on the other hand although stylish and with a good interface just doesn't match the performance I've come to associate with Mac.
When Windows Vista was so blatantly floundering it would have been much more intelligent for Apple to have pushed their excellent range of Laptops instead.
Martin Bentley, Bristol, UK
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