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At 82, Gore Vidal has reached an enviable position: he is an influential man of letters, a political activist, a scion of the New World aristocracy and a friend of the powerful and famous, including the Clintons.
So what does he think of Hillary Clinton’s stated intention to fight on to the bitter end for the Democratic presidential nomination? The reply is instant and searing: “I think her strategy is more or less insane.”
He continues: “I’d always rather liked her. She’s a perfectly able lawyer . . . But this long campaign, this daily search for the grail, has driven her crazy.”
In his view Barack Obama has won; and if the nomination is taken away from him, “I fear what our black population might do. There has never been a revolution of blacks – yet”.
During the Clinton administration, Vidal admired Bill’s understanding of the poor and of black people. His devotion to the Clintons has now been laid aside, however. By clinging on to her campaign, waiting for the small chance that Obama will make a terminal mistake, Hillary has crossed a line, he believes.
As for Obama, Vidal has taken time to warm to him. “I liked the idea of him, but he never managed to get my interest. I was brought around by his overall intelligence – specifically when he did his speech on race and religion.”
In Vidal’s opinion, “he’s our best demagogue since Huey Long or Martin Luther King”.
I ask if he thinks Obama has a similar charisma to that of John F Kennedy, whom Vidal got to know because he was related to his wife, Jackie.
“I never believed in Jack’s charisma,” Vidal says shortly. JFK, he believes, was “one of our worst presidents”; Bobby, his brother, was “a phoney, a little Torquemada”; and their father, Joseph, was “a crook – should have been in jail”.
So much for Camelot. “But Jack had great charm,” he adds. “So has Obama. He’s better educated than Jack. And he’s been a working senator. Jack never went to the office – he wanted the presidency and his father bought it for him.”
There’s no guarantee, of course, that the Democrats will triumph later this year, even if Obama does win the nomination. Does he think Obama can beat John McCain?
His views on the man the Democratic candidate will have to beat are even more brutal than his views on Hillary: “ You could beat McCain! I’ve never met anyone in America who has the slightest respect for him. He went to a private school and came bottom of his class. He smashed up his aeroplane and became a prisoner of war, which he is trying to parlay into ‘war hero’.”
In his view, McCain is “a goddamned fool. He was on television talking about mortgages, and it was quite clear he does not know what a mortgage is. His head rattles as he walks”.
However, in Vidal’s eyes, McCain is just a symptom of the real malaise affecting America today: the cynical subversion of the US constitution. “The Bush people”, he says, “have virtually got rid of Magna Carta and habeas corpus. In a normal republic I would probably have raised an army and overthrown them. It will take a hundred years to put it all back.”
By now he has worked himself up to a crisp fury: “Those neocons, lawyers, the big corporations – worse than that, extremists – want to get rid of the great power of oversight of the executive. See what they’ll try to do to Obama. They’re crooks. They’re just gangsters. They are the enemy of the United States. There’s no such thing as a war on terrorism. It’s idiotic. There are slogans. It’s advertising, which is the only art form we’ve invented and developed. It’s lies.”
Vidal has never been less than fully engaged with the politics of his country – but he seems angrier than I have ever seen him before. This may be because he has returned to live in the States only recently, after spending more than 30 years in Italy. He seems revived and refreshed by his furious reengagement with American politics.
For him, the biggest lie has always been to keep quiet; and the best life-enhancer is to provoke, unsettle, rile – in short, to make people face the truth. He remains a rarity.
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I agree completely!
Mary Gilbert, Glendale, AZ, USA
Ahem! I must agree with everything Gore Vidal says!
Mary Gilbert
Cousin to Gore Vidal and Barack Obama!
Mary Gilbert, Glendale, AZ, USA
All these major 'candidates' for president are pre-selected and totally corrupted. I have my doubts about Obama, but I have seen vast evidence that McCain is 'Bush Part 2' and is mentally shaky (at best). It is scary how gullible people are in the US to actually support any of these shills.
Dave, Detroit, USA
The Republic is DEAD.
As B. Franklin said:
A Republic, If you can keep it?
Gore Vidal is a historian, patriot and most of all an intelligent
Human Being.
More than can be said for all of the Bushites and most of those present.
He is a National Treasure
The house of BUSH has fallen.
Peace has come.
William Eon, The Bronx, U.S.A.
Some Americans appreciate a man of intelligence who isn't afraid to tell the truth.
Welcome back Mr. Vidal!
Sarah McCown, St. Petersburg, FL, USA
Suspend your disbelief, Obama can convince Gore Vidal, he can
convince me. Besides which other candidate looks like an astronaut? Perhaps he can take us on a refreshing journey.
Andy Bond, london, UK
Gore Vidal--no! He actually died many years ago as a lad. Only his fly-blown ego lives on to emanate occasionally to gullible newsies.
Don Carlson, West Orange, NJ, USA
Fortunate for Vidal that the British apparently hold him in such high esteem ("influential man of letters" and so forth), because he's pretty much a zero here in the States. Can't imagine why he came back.
Kyda Sylvester, California, USA
Those of you who bought the line, Obama has done nothing and is inexperienced could benefit from a trip to the hall of records. Do yourself a favor and do your own homework instead swallowing anything the marketing campaign of politicians tells you. People are way to gulllable and lazy these day.
scott, venice, ca, usa
Nationwide, the black vote is 11% of the registered voters in all parties. The white working class vote is 77% and women are over 50% of the total registered voters nationwide. Which candidate has a more competitive demographic against McCain? Not Obama.
Andy, San Francisco, USA
And we care what GV thinks because... ?
Obama is just another corrupt Chicago pol (a tradition here). I can't believe the Clintons haven't dug up enough dirt on the guy to bury him thirty feet deep. I'm voting Republican (sorry, mom, Hillary is through.).
Tony, Chicago, USA
why does it sound like he's lost his mind?
perfectly cogent to me in every quotation, makes some good points.
davey, toronto,
Sounds as if he has completely lost his mind.
Ed, Deridder, US
I think we found the source of Teddy's seizures...
Mike Pierce, Gloucester, USA
Vidal has been away far too long. Joe Kennedy was nothing but a crook and traitor but JFK (a war hero not for killing the enemy but for saving his crew) was a great communicator and a decent president. Obama is a great speaker but has not done anything in his career to point at as trying to help anyone, he is another all talk and do nothing person. Vidals take on McCain of being a fool is not too far off the mark but anyone who spent years at the Hanoi Hilton should be considered a hero, McCain didnt smash up his airplane, he was shot down after delivering his ordinance on target.
Jeff in Miami Beach, Miami Beach, USA/FL
Vidal weighing in on Barack Obama, Clintons and JFK. Good perspective, Vidal is still vibrating with the universe and his opinion should count. Thanks for checking in with him.
Shannon, Grosse Pointe Park, USA
Vidal is great value. Any democracy should be delighted to have a gadfly as educated and perceptive as he is.
As for Joe Kennedy, we British people should remember that in 1939 he advised Roosevelt that the Nazis would win, and urged that the USA should get in with them. He always hated Britain.
Tom Welsh, Basingstoke,
What alternate dimension is this old crazy geezer living in, where he fears a black revolution? How pathetic.
Josh Snow, Los Angeles, United States
Gore Vidal is back from Italy? Well, it's just like him to stir things up. Joe Kennedy may well have had too much influence, but American voters did have a hand in electing his son. I hardly rank JFK among our worst presidents, and Bobby Kennedy is fondly remembered by many. It's time Hillary quit.
Carolyn Bongiorno, Glenham, NY, USA
The media has pre-selected the furthest left Republican and Democrat candidates. Socialist suicide is the order of the day.
David, Miami, USA
Years ago I read his well done and deft bio of Lincoln. He definitely earned my respect so I read his Palimpsest in which he tells of days of spent loitering around public tiolets with a view towards deepening his carnal knowledge. He concludes that it were better he had never been born. He's back?
geoff bob, miami, usa
It is legend Gore never liked JFK - now tell me something Gore doesn't know !!!!
Ian Payne, WALSALL,
Iran is a country whose defense spending is less than 1% of our own; spends less on its military than countries such as the Netherlands and Sweden; has never invaded another country in modern history, and could not possibly threaten us
romeo, Darom,
Thought Vidal a great deal of fun as an essayist in the 80s. A couple of his books were fun, too. Burr, in particular. However, he's rather faded into petulant smallness.
Larry, portland, usa
Very insightful.
Who says the elderly have nothing to add to the community?
Marc, Antrim,
A wise hoary head has spoken. We all need to take heed!
Jimmy C, Letchworth Garden City, UK