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The violent scenes in the latest Batman film, The Dark Knight, have prompted a record number of objections about its classification with a 12A certificate.
In just over a week since the film, starring the late Heath Ledger as the Joker, was released in this country, the British Board of Film Classification (BBFC) has received 70 complaints about the certification. There were 110 complaints about the 12A certificate for the 2006 James Bond film Casino Royale, but these were received over several weeks.
Parents have complained of having to shield their children’s eyes from scenes such as a man’s eye being jabbed with a pencil and the Joker describing how he enjoys killing people with a knife because they take longer to die.
This weekend Labour MP Keith Vaz, who is chairman of the Commons home affairs committee, said he would be summoning the BBFC to its hearings on knife crime in October. “The BBFC should realise there are scenes of gratuitous violence in The Dark Knight to which I would certainly not take my 11-year-old daughter,” said Vaz, who saw the film on Friday. “It should be a 15 classification.”
Critics have warned that the BBFC is becoming both too liberal and too willing to cave in to commercial pressure from Hollywood studios to maximise audience numbers. The board has admitted that its decision on The Dark Knight was “borderline 15” – meaning that its examiners nearly gave it a 15. The 12A means children of 12 can go unaccompanied.
Parents are allowed to take children younger than 12 with them to the Batman film, although they are advised not to. Children as young as nine have been seen watching it.
Among those to complain to the BBFC is Nicholas Henderson, a marketing manager from Surrey, who saw the film with three adult friends.
“It’s immoral and unethical. None of us could believe it was a 12A,” said Henderson, who has also written to Joshua Berger, head of the UK arm of Warner Bros, the distributors. “Berger should go before the home affairs select committee’s knife crime inquiry to explain himself.”
The Dark Knight is more lifelike and contains more violent scenes than previous Batman films, which have been closer to the original cartoon style. Many parents did not realise how different the new film, released at the start of the school summer holidays, is from the rest of the series.
The first appeared in 1989 and starred Michael Keaton and Kim Basinger. In addition to the eye scene (which does not show the moment of contact) and the Joker’s comments on knife killing, the same character is shown threatening to slit a victim’s mouth open.
The BBFC simply states on its main website classification that The Dark Knight “contains moderate violence and sustained threat”. Few people read the website and even fewer know of its page of “extended consumer advice for parents”.
The site summarises the film as “a super-hero movie” and acknowledges elsewhere that it “contains a good deal of violence, but not in detail”.
The BBFC has confirmed that Warner Bros asked for The Dark Knight to be classified as 12A and admitted that the board “comes under pressure to keep classifications low” so that as many people as possible can see films.
“The real problem is that in previous Batman films, Jack Nicholson’s Joker was jokier,” said John Whittingdale, Tory chairman of the Commons culture, media and sport committee.
“This ‘Joker’ is truly evil. Yet most parents and children would not know this beforehand. Also, nobody goes to the BBFC’s website for parental advice.”
The board says its director, David Cooke, did not see the film before it was classified, although he has watched it recently. It is understood he supported the 12A classification.
In Scandinavia and Ireland the film is a 15 and even in America, which is usually more liberal on film violence, the critic of The New Yorker magazine warned: “Do not, despite its PG13 [certificate], bring the children.”
BOND AMONG 12A SHOCKERS
— Casino Royale, the 2006 Bond film, was given a 12A even though the BBFC demanded cuts to a torture scene
— Angelina Jolie, star of Beowulf, expressed surprise at its 12A, saying the film “shocked me”
— Matt Damon urged parents not to take their children to see his 2002 hit The Bourne Identity, the first film given a 12A
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The Dutch gave it a 16, why didn't the Brits give it a 15?
(Quick! Fetch me the shark-repellant Bat spray!)
M. R., Lancaster,
Having seen the film last night I was shocked and appalled to see families with very young children in the cinema
Two seats to my right sat a mother with a baby in arms. Next to her sat a boy aged about 6. In front of me sat a boy of about 9. And we ask who is to blame for increasing youth crime
Kath, London, UK
I do believe there is pressure to make films more available to everyone so they make more money from them. Parents should research films before taking their kids, but also the certificates are their for a reason. Someone has watched the film for you and made a decision so you don't have to think.
Rebecca, Wetherby, UK
i think that Nolan went to lengths to ensure that it reached it's 12A cert. The knifing scenes were edited ever so slightly as not to show the graphic details - just the buildup, which is often far more uncomfortable to watch than the actual climax.
Jamie, London,
Nolan also said that he would have loved to have seen this movie as a kid, I totally agree, I would have scared the bajesus outta me but it would be permanently etched into my memory.
Jamie, London, UK
Well, there is merit to the argument that it's been classified incorrectly. After all, they keep referring to the Jack Nicholson Joker as being 'more jokey', but that Batman was rated a 15, anyway.
Why not this one?
Anthony, London,
70 complaints in just 10 days - This film really must have shocked & offended the tens & tens of 1000s that have seen it.
As for not knowing it's content, with all the hype, even my nan knew what it was about.
If your child is under 12, then really you should research a 12A before taking them.
Andrew, Swansea,
Parents should research the film. If they think their child is not mature enough or of a stable mind they should not allow them to see it. I know many 12 year olds that would be entertained by the film and react the same way as an adult would. They know the difference between right and wrong.
Andy, Guildford, UK
"This Joker is truly evil. Yet most parents and children would not know this beforehand"
With the amount of coverage the film and Heath Ledger's demonic performance has received, I would have thought that there would have been a good understanding of just how evil this character is.
Ed Mottram, Cambridge,
The violence level in this film is way too high for unaccompanied young teens.
Having said that, however, on the most popular source for pirate copies it is presently at the top of the chart with nearly ten thousand currently downloading. What's the odds a high proportion of those are by under 15s?
Andy Holt, Rayleigh,
This is ridiculous. All this talk of 'standards' - we're a cotton-wool society. No wonder young adults are screwed up... shield them from this, restrict that, hide everything... then they hit 18 and all of a sudden they're chucked in the deep end.
The world is harsh - build up calluses BEFORE entry
DJW, Nottingham, UK
I've never believed in this correlation between violence on the screen and violence in real life especially in a make believe setting such as Batman. My children stopped believing in the reality of TV around the age of 4.
McDaddy, Stockport, England
It never ceases to amaze me that violence is considered acceptable in not only "12" films, but also in "PG" and even "U" films. Violence symbolises nothing positive at all. Show a naked breast, a thing of beauty and an essential part of life in anything less than a "15" though and woe betide you!
Ben Adamson, Manchester, UK
Kids have become more feral a long time before the Dark Knight was made so I feel this film is a victim of PC nonsense as with the original Tom and Jerry
Moez Adamjee, Hayes, UK
They don't care what kids watch these days. Standards are falling daily and nobody gives a damn. Our children have been well abandoned. No wonder they're all becoming more than a little weird.
judy, Liverpool, England
Is it any wonder that there is so much violence in this Country. I support Mr Henderson's view and agree it should have a 15 certificate as it is not suitable for 12 year olds.
mike, london, uk
i've just realised why the original tom and jerry cartoons are not shown any more, obviously too violent for todays little angels, get a life and get a grip, its entertainment,
jonny, lancashire,
The Dark Knight is not in the same series as the 89 Movie Batman.
That's like saying every 'robin hood' film is part of the same series!
The Dark Knight is a sequel to Batman Begins.
The Joker is a crazed serial killer. in the comics he's already killed Robin, and crippled Batgirl. it's not 'jokey'
charles, carlisle, uk
If you ever listen to Mark Kermode's film reviews, he does make comments re the BBFC film classifications and recommends that viewers go to the website.
I saw the film on opening night at the o2 arena, and I was sat next to a little girl who must have been about 7 or 8. She was with her mum!
Sarah, High Wycombe,
Sad. A movie too silly for adults and too nasty and violent for kids. You want to show them Batman? find a DVD of the TV show. It won't give your kids nightmares and Caesar Romero was always a howl as The Joker.
Matthew Patton, Deltona. FL, USA
Nicholas Henderson is a very sad man
robo , London, United Kingdom